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[laboprod]

Definitely. Without Redcode, a 4K sensor would just be a way of generating a huge amount of data that most people couldn't afford to do anything with. Redcode and the post workflow are absolutely key.

Amen to that!

[tlorenzo]

I'm visualizing everyone at RED sitting in front of their computers - logging onto DVXUser to compliment eachother ;-)

[Graeme_Nattress]

I think, also, in the presentation, there's some black level differences caused by some experimental sensor processing in the compression lab software that was used to test the compression.

Graeme

[Brook Willard]

The black level issue was the only thing that I noted while viewing it. It didn't match the other shots which made it look "worse" to some. The thing is, it wasn't the compression... it just felt a little brown.

That's what's so great about this - it's all experimental.

[filmmaker1977]

what I read from Yuval Shrem here:


Quote:
Originally Posted by Yuval Shrem
"I was there and was very impressed! Even though I did notice a slight difference between the Redcode compressed and uncompressed images, I thought the aesthetics of the Redcode compression looked very filmic, and even though the image was slightly less detailed (1:10 compression) in some way, I liked it better, because it seemed to have the positive effect film projection has on storytelling (vs. digital projection), in the sense that it shifts the attention away from the beauty of the image and back to the actors and the story. I do hope Redcode keeps improving, but I think even as it is now I would have felt more than comfortable using it (Redcode Raw) for a feature-film project with a theatrical release.

Keep up the great work!
Can't wait to seeing the next version of the codec...

Yuval."

emanuel said: "A moviemaker with "that filmic eye". The same who pronounced an opinion at the first ever HVX filmout screening that I could confirm when the HVX came out. So I just request for an improved REDCODE but without a loss concerning those cinematic properties we could find from the gus station sequence."

i could agree.. completely.. if yuval hadn't said: "it shifts the attention away from the beauty of the image and back to the actors and the story." what's this yuval?.. do you complain for a beauty image?? i thought it would be the contrary.. on the other hand, solved by actors?..

otherwise, i didn't see nobody to complain on sharpness??

but if sharpness is fake sharpness or video sharpness like the interlaced one? no thanks..

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the gus station trick rocked indeed.. but don't forget the sharpness artifacts free (sure), graeme! thx for that clean look.. you're my idol.. i'd change to fcp just to go with your plugins stuff if i couldn't save my money on pc side.. don't try to abandon us.. now though based on west you're a red revolutionist more than the typical business man..

[Tom Marshall]

I'm visualizing everyone at RED sitting in front of their computers - logging onto DVXUser to compliment eachother ;-)

lol... they're probably taking turns on the same computer...

[Emanuel]

lol... they're probably taking turns on the same computer...

Indeed! Here I have more than a few... Well, by now (yet) each one from each own computer... PC based computer! And now I wouldn't say yet but as usual and forever! I hope!

[Yuval Shrem]

what I read from Yuval Shrem here:

i could agree.. completely.. if yuval hadn't said: "it shifts the attention away from the beauty of the image and back to the actors and the story." what's this yuval?.. do you complain for a beauty image?? i thought it would be the contrary.. on the other hand, solved by actors?..

Hi Filmmaker1977,

You must have misunderstood me.
What I said was that when you watch a film projection your attention is shifted to the actors and the story, and when you watch the same exact thing projected digitally, for some reason your attention is shifted from the actors and story and to the imagery and its aesthetics and technical quallities.
This issue by itself has nothing to do with RED or REDcode.

What I said about REDcode was that because of its aesthetics it seemed to magically have the mentioned advatanges of film-projection even when digitally projected.
This doesn't make the image less beautiful and has nothing to do with the actors...

I hope this clears that up.


Yuval.

[Emanuel]

Hi Yuval!

I received your PM, thank you. Don't worry! I already had with her (yes, Filmmaker'77 is a she when isn't a he -- as matter of fact, it's a production house user account, so there isn't the same guy or gal posting there) the same talk.

What I could understand what you said it is the REDCODE is cinematic. It has that feel different than the digital projection. Like it actually was film and not video.

Cheers
E.