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    huh new pany gizmos !
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    my dvx is still top shelf goods man!!!
    every obnes going to hd all ready i just got my cam like a yaer ago
    im still trying to find a 24 frame veiwing device ,im falling behind i guesse or just becoming the the budget cam pro!!!
    hvx seems dreamy allready at least the post suite is about as dreamy as well
    will i ever find clients that dont want hd for anything?im sure i can still get great impressions from a dvx no dought
    now if panny cuold make a new car that fits my budget!!!!
    mike d

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    I feel the same way. whew...Got mine last Christmas and now..it's taboo unless your doing local work. I'm producing short films and have a feature going in Jan.
    I Get tired of the chase...


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    Update:

    The Panasonic AV-HS300G SD/HD video switcher is now available.



    6 SD/HD inputs - 5 HD/-SDI and one DVI. SDI, and Component outputs. Optional Component input board. Full tally. 6 channel frame sync (So no genlock'd cameras necesarry. Program, Preview and Aux busses. And an internal DSK too. PLUS internal framestore for graphics loaded via Ethernet.

    All for an amazing $7,990! That's a new low for a HD live switcher.
    Paird with Canon's XL-H1 or XH-G1 cameras that's an amazingly cheap HD multicamera system. - Or add in the compoent card and you can use any of these new cheap HD cameras!

    Full details here: http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webapp...G&displayTab=S


    EDIT: I just read the manual, and I must say that I'm very impressed by the power & flexibilty and simplicty of this switcher. I want one.

    - Mikko ... currently reading the manual.
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    So we would need component to sdi converters to use the HVX?


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    ... or the optional Componenet Input board for the switcher, yes.

    This is where the cameras with HD-SDI have a distinct advantage.


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    How long can an analog component gable be? If compared to S-video gables, which can reach really long distancies, what is the acceptable lenght of video feed in HD.
    jussi


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    That's impossible to say.

    It depends on cable type, quality, connectors used, environmental circumstances, etc..

    But some hundreds of feet with good cables is very possible.

    If you need to go a long way, you could used the CamplexHD system that sends HD-component quite some distance over CAT5 cables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikkowilson
    That's impossible to say.

    It depends on cable type, quality, connectors used, environmental circumstances, etc..

    But some hundreds of feet with good cables is very possible.

    If you need to go a long way, you could used the CamplexHD system that sends HD-component quite some distance over CAT5 cables.

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    - Mikko
    Terve, Pohjanmaan poikia, kuvataan kiekkoa Sportin saitille ja vähän muutakin, käytössä on 1 datavideon 8000 mixeria, jossa myös ko. liitänät ja 1 kameroista on HVX, eli aihe kiinnostaa jos webbistriimin ja livemixauksenkin laatua voisi parantaa...
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    (I'll continue in English for the benefit of others)
    ... Yes, Component, and then of course SDI (Which is just Digital Compoent really) are a major step up in quality over Composite and S-video (I find S-video prety much worthless to be honest. Composite is good enoguh, or you need something much more than S-) in terms of not only pure quality, but noise resistance and signal clarity.

    DataVideo's mixers aren't much compared to the Panny switchers.

    Though mixers and cables asside, note that the best way to improve footage - especially for the web - is good lighting and carefully shoot footage that can be encoded well.


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    ...Hi, thanks for comments, we'll test Component as soon as possible. Anyhow sport's, low budjet and D##aV###o stuff go hand to hand! I have one model of that (500) of my own (price!), so up to near future we are stuck in S-video/composite side, but also looking for the next step, which might be more portable mixer-set... Waiting to see these new develoments in practice. As my sign "journalist" gives a hin't I am mostly dealing something else expect videos, but during last a couple of years "Dvx user" and others have been a great learnig experience... Thanks to all members of these forums - appriciate!

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