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    1024x576 is 16:9 and the correct resolution of true 16:9 PAL.

    The scene was moderatly well lit. But this was my first using of the camera, with no planning or reading any manuals of any short - and trying to avoid detection that I was actually recording!


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    1047x576, according to vegas ;) I believe technically it is between 1047 and 1050 ,,, strictly 1048, where visible is 1024 .. as the extra 24 pixels are inactive, as the 18 pixels are inactive in 720 signal (actual = 702).
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    Ok, that's it for me for right now.
    I'll get some more video and stills online in a more organaized fassion with listed settings etc, in the coming days.

    I still have a lot to check out here at IBC and very little time to do it.


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    Hard to come to any conclusions with these videos. Do you for how much will the 2 cameras be sold in europe?


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    It's really appreciated Mikko!
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    Quote Originally Posted by epicedium
    1047x576, according to vegas ;) I believe technically it is between 1047 and 1050 ,,, strictly 1048, where visible is 1024 .. as the extra 24 pixels are inactive, as the 18 pixels are inactive in 720 signal (actual = 702).
    1047? Never heard of THAT!!! If anything, it would most likely be 1049x576, but it is mostly considered to be 1050x576 (although the one pixel will make no difference).
    Of course this will depend on the CAM! Canon G1: does this cam produce the blank 18 pixels on left/right, or not? Does it record the 702 wide (correct) analog type 4:3, like the older XM1, or does it go full wide (like the DVX and most others) and produce 720 wide pixels? If it's 720 full wide, you'd need to go to 1050 to be correct, otherwise 1024 is correct.
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    Thanks Mikko!

    Really appreciate your hard work.

    Juan


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    Quote Originally Posted by vidled
    1047? Never heard of THAT!!! If anything, it would most likely be 1049x576, but it is mostly considered to be 1050x576 (although the one pixel will make no difference).
    Of course this will depend on the CAM! Canon G1: does this cam produce the blank 18 pixels on left/right, or not? Does it record the 702 wide (correct) analog type 4:3, like the older XM1, or does it go full wide (like the DVX and most others) and produce 720 wide pixels? If it's 720 full wide, you'd need to go to 1050 to be correct, otherwise 1024 is correct.
    Just got calc out-- looks like 1047 can be reached by working out the PAR from a visible area of 704, rather than 702! (where 702 gives you 1050.256) I don't know the details of when it's 702 and when it's 704- I've seen both quoted in PAL compliant res tables!

    And actually, you're right, I think vegas is 1049 .. now that you mention it ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by epicedium
    Just got calc out-- looks like 1047 can be reached by working out the PAR from a visible area of 704, rather than 702! (where 702 gives you 1050.256) I don't know the details of when it's 702 and when it's 704- I've seen both quoted in PAL compliant res tables!.
    Understood.
    Well, when Mikko gets back, he should be able to confirm whether the G1 goes all way to 720 or not.


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    ... I think vegas is 1049
    Aye, for sure it is!


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    Yeah great WORK Mikko really appreciate you trying to get stuff to us.

    In the end that H1 footage looked the most ordinary H1 footage I have ever seen before, plenty of noise etc. Its unfortunate but that tells me that these clips arent giving me a solid story. As I said before with the stills these arent even showing the same quality as the consumer HC3 at my local sell all electric supermarket.
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