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    I am having problems importing my MXF files.

    I have chosed 720p23.976 for the project
    I have followed your instructions regarding the Avid Media Files directory
    I now open Media Tools, which didn't do much except set the media drive.

    When I try to import the mxf files into a bin, it says "The import file is not a supported XDCAM MXF file."

    Any suggestions? Am I importing into the wrong place/using the wrong method? Are there project files I need to change?

    thanks


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    I too am having import problems and I'm working with Express Pro 5.5. The root folders do not exist on any other local drives, and I had to create these other folders first on my C drive.

    That said, I still have to use another software to get the files into an existing project, which really bites. The idea behind P2 and MXF workflow is supposed to be easier, but it isn't if you've had to offload the cards and transfer the files to either a local drive or a DVD media...why not have the ability to import and edit 720/24P alongside 30i or 1080/24P (which is seen as 1080/59.94) and mix them together instead of having to cross convert in a 3rd party software?


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    Quote Originally Posted by randomprandom
    I am having problems importing my MXF files.

    I have chosed 720p23.976 for the project
    I have followed your instructions regarding the Avid Media Files directory
    I now open Media Tools, which didn't do much except set the media drive.

    When I try to import the mxf files into a bin, it says "The import file is not a supported XDCAM MXF file."

    Any suggestions? Am I importing into the wrong place/using the wrong method? Are there project files I need to change?

    thanks
    What version of Avid?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe_Digital
    I too am having import problems and I'm working with Express Pro 5.5. The root folders do not exist on any other local drives, and I had to create these other folders first on my C drive.

    That said, I still have to use another software to get the files into an existing project, which really bites. The idea behind P2 and MXF workflow is supposed to be easier, but it isn't if you've had to offload the cards and transfer the files to either a local drive or a DVD media...why not have the ability to import and edit 720/24P alongside 30i or 1080/24P (which is seen as 1080/59.94) and mix them together instead of having to cross convert in a 3rd party software?
    Avid Xpress Pro HD v5.5 is not out yet. Unless you are testing a beta version or something? The process I wrote about was tested for v5.2.4 only.

    The P2 workflow is simple and easy. You just transfer the MXF files to your video drive. It's about 1/5th the time of normal digitizing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe_Digital
    That said, I still have to use another software to get the files into an existing project, which really bites. The idea behind P2 and MXF workflow is supposed to be easier, but it isn't if you've had to offload the cards and transfer the files to either a local drive or a DVD media...why not have the ability to import and edit 720/24P alongside 30i or 1080/24P (which is seen as 1080/59.94) and mix them together instead of having to cross convert in a 3rd party software?
    If by 'use another software' you mean Windows Explorer to drag and drop files from a P2 card to a folder on a hard drive, you are correct. But that is about it. You can use the contents from a card directly if you want to, without copying 1 byte( that is how we use it). If you want to move your clips from a card to a drive, the bad thing is, you have to copy files. But the good thing is, it's a lot faster than capturing HDV in realtime, and then converting it into something useable.

    Mixing different flavours of HD isn't the easiest thing to do, I agree. But most people plan a project in a particular format, and stick to that. Again, compared to HDV, with P2/avid you only have to crossconvert those clips that don't match your project, with HDV you have to convert everything.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DC
    What version of Avid?
    I am running Avid Xpress HD 5.2


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    I am beta testing 5.5. It is fairly solid, but the overall P2 workflow seems flawed, and I don't think its because of the beta -it is being able to import media that doesn't originate on a P2 card or from the HVX hooked up to the PC -either way you're pulling from P2 which seems to work OK.

    I feel like plunging a deep knife into my neck because we've shot content for my feature in a very expensive re-shoot last week, and offloaded our 2 x 8GB cards to my Powerbook. Everything got copied over, but we did have some record problems with some footage -somehow a camera op switched the recording format to 480/24PA while we were shooting...so we actually have 1080i/24 and 720/24P and 480/24PA. Avid will not consider any of these by themselves, so I've had to break down and get the DVFilm for PC.

    Now that we aren't losing clips from that program -you absolutely HAVE to follow the steps they say on the website otherwise they go into the ether- we've copied files to DVD and the 720P seems to import OK and we convert to 720/486 (30i) so the AVI can be imported into Avid. Even the 1080i seems to copy over OK, but the 480 content seems to not be copying properly from the Powerbook over to DVD and import to my PC.

    The only way I can take content into the Avid project I need the footage in is a 30I project. Media tool does not recognize anything I have copied.

    So, the $64,000 question is: how can I verify the MXF content is OK (other than we played back on sset from the P2 card to check if the files were solid and they were) and then get them into Avid if we have MXF files that exist on a hard drive or DVD media backup for a 30i project? lots of cross-coverting taking place, and as I said, so far the 480/24PA is giving me palpitations because I need to cut the scene and send the new rough cut to our broadcaster, but I can't even see my footage to be able to edit it...


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    This post helped me out LOTS. Thanks guys.

    Just a quick note for those of us who have tried (and struggled) to use P2 logger and the Panasonic "HVX200 Countdown" demo DVD for P2 tests, remember that Avid won't use DVCProHD 720/59.94p video. Avid Xpress Pro HD doesn't yet support all of the camera's formats, but I hope Avid takes steps to correct this soon. If you're using Panasonic's demo DVD to test P2 with your system only the 1080i video will be seen in the media tool. I'm going to try to transcode the other footage with After Effects, if it's even possible, so I can test 720/24P DVCProHD on my desktop system.

    Also, if you're trying to read the MXF files directly from the DVD or harddrive using P2 Logger you need to know that you won't see the files if you're selecting the CONTENTS folder as your target. You'll need to set it to the directory above that in order to see the P2 clips. Had to fiddle with it for a while, then found a post on another website that helped out. Panasonic really needs a help file or something for that program!

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    We're posting an iPod clip our Chronic Zing website soon. It's a film that we did on the original DVX two years ago. It's won a best picture award and two Tellys for production. I'll post a link in the appropriate forum when we get it up there.


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    Yep. The camera itself has been out 6 months, and the rest of the world has not yet caught up to it in order to take advantage of all its capabilities.

    A Mac version of the P2 viewer would be good for on set transfers to verify the content is working. In the meantime, I think it would be useful to have at least 3 8GB cards and likely 4. We were JUST getting content offloaded in time before we reloaded the P2 cards and formatted. I was really freaked about erasing stuff just shot without being able to do the proper verification of picture and sound, and my concerns have been justified with our current issues.


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    No converter for MXF
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    Just as I feared... After Effects doesn't import MXF footage. Looks like nothing does, except the few frame rates/resolutions Avid and other editors support. Focus Enhancements is releasing a converter that works with their hard drive recorders. Oh well, just a test. At least I know now what I can and can't shoot in the real world.


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