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    Onboard Waveform Please!
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    Jim and team if you are even still listening to these posts, I beg you:

    Please include some sort of basic waveform monitor that can be toggled on/off with an actual physical button. I like zebra lines in the LCD but they don't give you the same sense for how things are blowing out on the top like a simple waveform. I have been using the Panasonic 7" LCD on Varicam shoots that has the waveform and it is a godsend especially if you don't have a dedicated D.I.T. or even the rental budget (or spare hands) for a vectorscope/waveform monitor.

    Oh yeah, also no matter what, seriously, dedicated dials for the audio channel levels and the mixer bus. It has to be at least as good at the DVX!

    Thanks!

    -Clay


     

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    Oh crap, I almost forgot. If you make a waveform overlay that is assignable to video outputs by the camera menu system, I will do a backflip.

    -Clay


     

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    Great post. I'd love a camera that could show me a friggin waveform/histogram something! I mean, how hard should that be?


     

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    I posted this a while ago but I still would like to see this feature:

    A false color exposure aid would be great as well. Sort of like how a thermal camera displays degress, but in f-stops instead. Would make it very easy to read the exposure values of the scene. Especially on a small screen where a waveform or histrogram might be to detailed.
    Something like this:

    the original

    The exposure mode. Each tone represents a difference of approx. 1 stop.
    Last edited by Anders Holck; 04-29-2006 at 06:27 PM.


     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anders Holck
    I posted this a while ago but I still would like to see this feature:

    A false color exposure aid would be great as well. Sort of like how a thermal camera displays degress, but in f-stops instead. Would make it very easy to read the exposure values of the scene. Especially on a small screen where a waveform or histrogram might be to detailed...
    Failing that, would it be possible to have user assignable colours to two adjustable level zebras - I'm constantly confusing which zebra is which on my DVX100! I'd like to set my higher level to something like red to warn of clipping, and my lower one to say green or blue to indicate exposure on faces.
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    Waveform etc
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    Camera monitoring GUI includes focus, framing and exposure (level) assist.

    Th GUI shows up on the EVF video output and the LCD monitor video output.

    HDMI and HD-SDI monitor outputs are clean feeds, i.e. video but no GUI overlay.

    As always, specifications subject to change ... suggestions always welcome.
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    ..Well, as you asked for sugestions...
    It would be nice to have the option to have the GUI fed out to the HDMI and HD-SDI feeds too (preferably individually settable).

    For example if using an external HDMI monitor, I can forsee the GUI beeing visible there as a handy option.


    Umm.. "EVF video output". I haven't heard about that. What type of signal is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart English
    As always, specifications subject to change ... suggestions always welcome.
    Optically zooming the image inside the EVF might be useful, so that the screen can vary in apparent size

    Maybe to divide the screen into different "windows" where say you could have a zoomed in detail available while seeing the full image or have the screen split between no color adjustment and a personalized color curve

    The ability to save viewing preferences and give it a personalized name so that you could pick what "tools" will be visible and perhaps you simply push a small button and it rolls through your selected favorite settings. This way a person that likes waveform will keep alternating between a waveform and a regular view, and another guy will set it to alternate between a closeup and a regular view etc.


     

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    I worked a lot with the Accuscene viewfinder with the F900, and I love the "colour code" of the system... maybe we can have something simillar.
    But in other hand... With the varicam I use A LOT (and I mean A LOT) the Y-GET mode...
    you know.... the camera reads the pixel of the middle of the cross of the viewfinder, and gives you the level in %
    Perfect for quick exposure combined with a gray card.
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    Stuart is possible to output an HDSDI 2K 422 or 444 and record at 4k REDCODE raw at the same time?... and is possible to output with time code impressed?

    thanks!


     

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