A sample from the same original frame concerning the dvxuser.com HVX footage:
original
post production sample
Any thoughts?
Thread: CC/Grading proposal@Bar footage
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12-14-2005 11:50 PM
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12-15-2005 12:12 AM
Looks too green and the blacks look blue-ish. I think the only thing that would save this shot is reshooting it. The lighting in it makes me sick.
"An inch, it is small and it is fragile and its is the only thing in the world worth having. We must never lose it or give it away, we must never let them take it from us..." V for Vendetta
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12-15-2005 12:43 AM
I honestly didn't like the way this scene was shot to begin with so any cc is good cc to me.
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12-15-2005 04:32 AM
nothing can save that hair on the guy to the right on the phone.
X-angel aka Eric
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12-15-2005 12:11 PM
Back in the DVX days, we would cry for so much color informaiton
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12-15-2005 05:44 PM
The original bar shot is so flat and conservatively lit and exposed that I would say it sucks only for the quality of the hvx capture.
Viewing the screen grab as would a still photo, it would be hard to add visual drama to it because of the uninteresting and weak lighting. Overall there is no contrast and so I'm pushing it here dramatically - see how it effects the drama of the scene, gives it depth, makes the guy's expression more interesting, makes the viewers eye roam around the picture, lights and darks, as opposed to the eye not jumping around with the original flat image...
I wasn't able to do this properly on current system without losing quality but gives the basic idea I think. Anyway highlight details plus shadow details - doesn't matter as much as emotional or overall visual impact if you ask me. Same principals re image making apply to movie as much as stills.
http://barra-dvxuser.magix.net/websi...2?act=15&pos=0
Sorry about the webpage link but I don't know how to paste in a picture.
I prefer Emanuel's version to the original also, it lends itself to going darker like that too, it looks so much moodier too.
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12-15-2005 08:55 PM
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To each his own...
The word "horrible" does come to mind though.
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12-15-2005 10:00 PM
Thank you guys!...but the idea is to see your work, too!?...like Barra and if possible here.
Barra, it's easy to publish a photo here:
1) You must choose a website that providing free image hosting like stickypod.com or putfile.com;
2) In order to learn how to put the right adress here, you may try to quote someone with published photos in any of these threads and see how he is doing;
3) And do it like myself now with your sample.
Barra's sample

I know that the shot is not easy, that's why I choose it. BTW, Stevet, you said: "horrible" but because your "??" are following Barra's post, it's difficult to follow your judgement. If mine's, Barra's or both?!...RED ONE @home
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12-16-2005 08:15 AM
I was refering to the last post. It doesn't take a professional to see the blown out highlights and resolution loss, not to mention excessive noise.
Heck, the lady in the back looks like she's wearing a white box for a shirt! The lady on the left looks like someone made her hair with a black magic marker.
In fact, you can't seperate her hair from her black shirt.
The image is so blown out, it has loss an incredible amount of detail !
Emanuel,
I saw what you were trying to achieve. You're trying to flatten the image to give it more of a film look. You're on the right road, although I think this image is a bit overdone.
Actually I like the original look that was shot. What I don't care for is the actually color surroundings (walls, etc.) within the shot.
Of course, that's an artistic view.
Steve




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