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    The 4060 has been replaced by the 6060 a few years ago.
    from what I know it hasn't been replaced.

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    I didn't mean "replaced" in the sense the 4060 is gone, but rather in the sense that the 4060 was claimed to be the so called "best sounding", another has taken that throne now. With many mixers moving over to the 6060 (if they're looking to change and can afford it, they're not cheap! Especially as lavs are essentially "disposable" in the long run as consumables).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clermond View Post
    The sound of the B6 is great and the small size makes it easy to hide. I’m just a hobbyist;) but imho it matches better to the characteristics of a shotgun mic on the boom. The sensitivity of cable noise can be nightmare though. The dpa is way easier to handle and has a rich and pleasant sound. I have read good things about the sanken cos-11 too but I have no personal experience.
    The COS-11 is popular exactly because of it's ability to fairly seamlessly cut with the industry standard boom mics. It has to be that because the Sanken has the weirdest form factor, a big, thick chunky cable
    and all of the accessories are kind of unique to the COS-11. So objectively, I am not crazy about the COS-11, it's awkward to mount and deploy under wardrobe, but it does sound great and it does cut with boom mics better
    than my B6s, which sound pretty different than the MKH-50/CMC641 that are standard fare for interiors. We shot a live stream last night and I put a COS-11 on each talent but luckily it was the type of
    presentation where it was fine to see the microphone so I didn't have to hide it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IronFilm View Post
    I didn't mean "replaced" in the sense the 4060 is gone, but rather in the sense that the 4060 was claimed to be the so called "best sounding", another has taken that throne now. With many mixers moving over to the 6060 (if they're looking to change and can afford it, they're not cheap! Especially as lavs are essentially "disposable" in the long run as consumables).
    Interesting, I have not kept up with DPA since reviewing their whole lineup quite a few years ago, I had not even heard of the 6060/61 and I don't read many posts about it on the sound groups. Looks like a heavier duty version with a different form factor and without the caps and model variation.
    Needless to say, if I was a pro sound mixer, I would own both but for my occasional sound dabbling, the DPAs are a little too expensive for me, especially since lavs are essentially a consumable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puredrifting View Post
    ... the DPAs are a little too expensive for me, especially since lavs are essentially a consumable.
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    I paid about 300£ for my 4060 core each. It was totally worth the investment. They are easy to handle and robust. Good sound catches your audience immediately- For what I do it's more present than +1,5 stop dynamic range.
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    If you're using lavs day in day out, for weeks on end, then they're pretty close to basically "consumables" in the long run.

    As you're handing out fragile things to strangers/"talent"!
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    If you are using things day in day out you have a pretty solid business and your tools should pay off easily
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    Try searching for “Zoom F2” on eBay and see what you get.


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    Obviously, I think we've all seen a lav get trashed here and there(the same with entire cameras and lenses), but what the heck are you guys doing to where you have to consider a lav a consumable? I think I have one 11 in my stable that doesn't sound as good as it's siblings, now, but I don't think I've ever had a lav of mine completely trashed(COS-11's and Tram's are the bulk of my lav's, with a couple B6's and ECM-77's). Several years ago, we even hid a COS-11 and Lectro belt pack on a college football player in a real, live game and got it all back completely unharmed(I did have the client confirm in writing that they accepted full financial responsibility for the full replacement value of the belt pack and lav if damaged, though).

    I believe the worst damage my audio equipment has ever received from talent was from Jarred- Subway Jarred. He sat on a painted concrete wall and slid across it going from one side to the other and the white paint was gouged/ground into the case of the belt pack transmitter. The paint is actually still on it/in it today, over 13 years later.


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    Quote Originally Posted by puredrifting View Post
    The COS-11 is popular exactly because of it's ability to fairly seamlessly cut with the industry standard boom mics. It has to be that because the Sanken has the weirdest form factor, a big, thick chunky cable
    and all of the accessories are kind of unique to the COS-11. So objectively, I am not crazy about the COS-11, it's awkward to mount and deploy under wardrobe, but it does sound great and it does cut with boom mics better
    than my B6s, which sound pretty different than the MKH-50/CMC641 that are standard fare for interiors. We shot a live stream last night and I put a COS-11 on each talent but luckily it was the type of
    presentation where it was fine to see the microphone so I didn't have to hide it.
    Interesting discussion. I tend to prefer my COS-11's than my DPA 4060.
    Just seems to have richer bass to my ears.
    My DPA 4060 also didn't play well with my Tascam DR-10Ls so has been benched for a number of jobs that it otherwise would have been used for.


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