Page 1 of 6 12345 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 53
  1. Collapse Details
    China Censoring Hollywood
    #1
    Senior Member ahalpert's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    NYC
    Posts
    2,491
    Default
    This will be limiting politically as well as in terms of cultural standards surrounding taboo subjects like sex, etc.

    And in contrast, Hollywood regularly produces movies that are critical of American government.

    https://www.axios.com/china-censor-h...91393615d.html

    "China's box office is projected to soon surpass the U.S. as the largest film market in the world.

    "Access to that market can make or break the success of a major Hollywood film," said James Tager, the author of a recent PEN America report about how the Chinese government censors the U.S. film industry, and how the industry responds by self-censoring.

    But the Chinese government tightly controls access to the market, excluding films that include content it dislikes, and blacklisting individual actors or film studios that have previously participated in activities the Chinese Communist Party doesn't like.

    The result is an "epidemic of self-censorship" in Hollywood, said Aynne Kokas, assistant professor of media studies at the University of Virginia, and author of the book Hollywood Made in China.

    "They are removing content that they worry could upset the Chinese government even before actually proposing it to the Chinese government. And there is pressure to include content that is more flattering to Beijing," said Tager."

    "the last time a major Hollywood studio made a movie that presented a vulnerable group as the victim of Chinese government aggression was in 1997 with "Seven Years in Tibet" starring Brad Pitt.

    The Chinese government responded by slapping a five-year ban on Columbia TriStar, the production company that made the film — a response that cast a chill over the U.S. movie industry."
    www.VideoAbe.com

    "Captain, the most elementary and valuable statement in science, the beginning of wisdom, is 'I do not know.'" - Lt. Cmdr. Data


    Reply With Quote
     

  2. Collapse Details
    #2
    Resident Preditor mcgeedigital's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Potomac Falls, VA
    Posts
    7,990
    Default
    The Chinese Communist Party has a long history of doing that.

    The studio changed the protagonists in the remake of Red Dawn from the Chinese to North Koreans, to making the studio change the the new Top Gun to remove the Taiwan and Japanese flags from the back of Tom Cruise's flight jacket.

    190721213817-top-gun-jacket-split-exlarge-169.jpg

    Hollywood virtue signals that it is al about human rights and dignity, until it comes time to appease not only the largest market in the world, but the government with the worst track record on human rights.
    Matt Gottshalk - Director/ Dp/ and Emmy Award Winning Editor
    Producer/Director, Digital Creative for the United States Postal Service


    3 out of 3 members found this post helpful.
    Reply With Quote
     

  3. Collapse Details
    #3
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Posts
    2,052
    Default
    It goes the other way too, where American movies will put content IN to specifically appeal to that market. I can't remember if it was an Iron Man or an Avengers but there's some scene (scientists? Surgery?) that features some well-known-in-China actors that most people here would probably not know.


    1 out of 1 members found this post helpful.
    Reply With Quote
     

  4. Collapse Details
    #4
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2014
    Posts
    7,009
    Default
    One could make a political joke here but that's frowned upon.

    OK, one could make a lot of political jokes here.


    Reply With Quote
     

  5. Collapse Details
    #5
    Senior Member Run&Gun's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    NC
    Posts
    4,813
    Default
    There are a few old sayings that could be applied here:

    Money talks and bull$hit walks

    How much is you soul for sale for?


    And sadly, most Americans do not care, because there’s probably as much anti-American sentiment here in the US as there is almost anywhere else in the world.

    This used to be the greatest nation in the world. We were looked up to and envied by everyone else. Now Americans are being taught to hate America by other “Americans”.


    2 out of 3 members found this post helpful.
    Reply With Quote
     

  6. Collapse Details
    #6
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2014
    Posts
    7,009
    Default
    The old Soviet Union was a lot more traditional than the US on a number of social issues, including relationships. On other issues, they were as the name implied. There were foreign films in abundance but they were carefully picked and, as the old US TV networks disclaimer went, "edited for time and content". Plus, since the dialog was dubbed anyway, one could just as easily write a politically suitable translation.

    Back then, there were a few theaters that had recent foreign films with a live voiceover actor. Those screenings were reserved for the political and the intellectual elite. In order to be admitted inside, one needed a special pass that was given to only a few. Naturally, people tried to bribe their way in, sneak inside through the exit door, etc. Officially, this was sold as a way to peek into the "decadent West". In reality, people just wanted to see he latest Hollywood blockbuster and, to a large extent, to see a modern non-political film.

    In the early 1980's, the Soviets began to manufacture a licensed copy of a 1978 top-loading Panasonic VHS. The VCR cost roughly an engineer's annual wage. Except, an engineer couldn't find it in electronics stores because they were, once again, sold to the elites and found their way into private hands at huge markups. However, many contend that VCR's exacerbated the demise of the USSR because the smuggled/pirated video tapes did show what life in the West was really like. And that broke years of the rigid Soviet control over the information available to the Soviet citizenry. It was one thing to listen to Deep Purple or Led Zeppelin on a short wave radio; it was another to watch even something like a "Terminator". This is why the Chinese would rather import mindless action films with no resemblance to reality or the animated children films. Those don't even need to be censored.


    Reply With Quote
     

  7. Collapse Details
    #7
    Senior Member ahalpert's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    NYC
    Posts
    2,491
    Default
    Quote Originally Posted by Run&Gun View Post
    And sadly, most Americans do not care, because there’s probably as much anti-American sentiment here in the US as there is almost anywhere else in the world.

    This used to be the greatest nation in the world. We were looked up to and envied by everyone else. Now Americans are being taught to hate America by other “Americans”.
    I think criticism and introspection is a good thing. I would rather have more criticism of China than less criticism of the US.

    Are we perfect? No country is. We are normal in that way. Pick a flaw of the US and you will find a corresponding issue somewhere else, though it may be a bigger or a smaller problem there. If we can't take an honest look in the mirror, how are we supposed to improve?


    3 out of 3 members found this post helpful.
    Reply With Quote
     

  8. Collapse Details
    #8
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Charlottesville, va
    Posts
    2,605
    Default
    Quote Originally Posted by ahalpert View Post
    I think criticism and introspection is a good thing. I would rather have more criticism of China than less criticism of the US.

    Are we perfect? No country is. We are normal in that way. Pick a flaw of the US and you will find a corresponding issue somewhere else, though it may be a bigger or a smaller problem there. If we can't take an honest look in the mirror, how are we supposed to improve?
    Well, hey, look at that... something we completely agree upon!

    The USA’s long-standing tradition of complaining about those in power without fear of reprisal, imprisonment, cancellation, or disappearance is the very thing that’s kept us great. I praise the Lord daily for political division, because ‘political unity’ throughout world history usually takes the form of an extraordinary number of murdered innocents.
    Pudgy bearded camera guy
    http://mcbob.tv


    1 out of 1 members found this post helpful.
    Reply With Quote
     

  9. Collapse Details
    #9
    Senior Member ahalpert's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    NYC
    Posts
    2,491
    Default
    Quote Originally Posted by mcgeedigital View Post
    The Chinese Communist Party has a long history of doing that.

    The studio changed the protagonists in the remake of Red Dawn from the Chinese to North Koreans, to making the studio change the the new Top Gun to remove the Taiwan and Japanese flags from the back of Tom Cruise's flight jacket.

    190721213817-top-gun-jacket-split-exlarge-169.jpg

    Hollywood virtue signals that it is al about human rights and dignity, until it comes time to appease not only the largest market in the world, but the government with the worst track record on human rights.
    It has been happening for decades, but the balance of power is shifting in their favor as their economy grows larger. By some measures, it is already as large or larger than the US. Elon Musk predicts it will become 2-3x the size. If their cinema attendance levels are maintained and ours decline, it's a foregone conclusion whom Hollywood will primarily service. At least until China uses incentives and regulations to take the majority of film production domestic, as they have with many industries.


    Reply With Quote
     

  10. Collapse Details
    #10
    Senior Member ahalpert's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    NYC
    Posts
    2,491
    Default
    Quote Originally Posted by mcbob View Post
    Well, hey, look at that... something we completely agree upon!

    The USA’s long-standing tradition of complaining about those in power without fear of reprisal, imprisonment, cancellation, or disappearance is the very thing that’s kept us great. I praise the Lord daily for political division, because ‘political unity’ throughout world history usually takes the form of an extraordinary number of murdered innocents.
    In my opinion, many people who disagree politically share the same goals and ideals and only disagree on the diagnosis of the problems and the prescriptions that can solve them.

    There are definitely some politically-motivated constraints on free speech in the US by both governmental and corporate actors.

    But, by and large, we can breathe easy when we speak our minds and criticize our leaders, for which I am eternally grateful. I do not want that to change.

    Incidentally, the ACLU took heat from supposed free-speech advocates for backing Nazi marches in the wake of Charlottesville. But that was a familiar position for them. The ACLU has always stood up for the rights of neo-Nazis to March. Because...denying people the right to peacefully assemble is a Nazi thing to do


    Reply With Quote
     

Page 1 of 6 12345 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •