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    Quote Originally Posted by DLD View Post
    I run IMATEST on every DVXUser post. Then use Neat Video to reduce the FPN.
    I thought this was funny when I read it. Now that I'm more awake and fully grasp the full metaphor, I think it's very funny. Well done, sir.


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    Quote Originally Posted by puredrifting View Post
    This discussion has brought up some interesting points about who drives the sales of certain products for certain features. I have always suspected that this was the factor driving the SD to HD movement and later the HD to 4K, 5K, 6K, 8K movement. I'm convinced that most of the new features driving the sales of new cameras are mostly clever marketing to a gullible audience (us).

    Maybe. Except for the full frame craze. That seemed to come pretty significantly from clients appreciating that look (when the 5dmarkII blew up). It was always more significant than more resolution.


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    Quote Originally Posted by puredrifting View Post

    ..new gear "for clients", when clearly a good portion of clients, the vast majority in fact, don't even know what 4K and greater, HDR, HLG, FF, DGO, S/N ratio, FPN are. And if they did, they wouldn't care or be able to discern the difference. .
    Clients dont know until they do. For example I did a wetsuit shoot - wetsuits are very fine weave and created huge rainbowing moiree patterns across the front of the models obviously on the clients product.

    Had the client heard of moiree ? No - was the client pissed off - absolutely.

    All my cameras have pissed clients off. 5d - synch sound, FS100 forced to shoot at F22, F3 - I could not carry it etc.

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    Ive only been interested in upgrading when something from my current camera was unacceptable.

    5d - Moiree - no ND - HDMI wobble cut recording no XLR
    FS100 - No ND - sketchy highlight rolloff
    F3 - Too heavy with recorder of the time
    FS7 - no AF too heavy

    To me on paper this C70 seems the next thing.. light and AF take it from where the FS7 left off.

    Its not that it is great it is that it has fewer major failings than the previous generations. If it is great that is a (mainly irrelevant) bonus.
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    I'm sure this has already come up with the BMP4K/audio peeps but are there off the shelf mini XLR to XLR cables longer than a few feet?

    I want to go from microphone XLR to C70 without needing two adapters in the form of short cables. Or do people like the adapters?

    You could leave them attached and use it as a single cable but I'd rather get rid of the extra connection.


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    slashcam posted some footage of the C70. Shot with the same model and at the same location of all their other camera tests, but not on the same day of course, so it can be somewhat of a comparison:

    C70 Tests:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku-M...ture=emb_title


    C300 MKIII Tests:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAIqzs2TsG8


    C500 MKII Tests:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz7YyLSNJ0g&t=39s


    R5 Tests:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5uIT382q84


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    Quote Originally Posted by rob norton View Post
    I'm sure this has already come up with the BMP4K/audio peeps but are there off the shelf mini XLR to XLR cables longer than a few feet?

    I want to go from microphone XLR to C70 without needing two adapters in the form of short cables. Or do people like the adapters?

    You could leave them attached and use it as a single cable but I'd rather get rid of the extra connection.
    Not sure how long you need, but there are some longer pre-made cables of this type out there.

    Here are ones in 10 foot and 25 foot lengths:
    https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ..._to_XLR_F.html
    https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...r_male_to.html

    And here are cables in lengths from 1 foot up to 100 feet:
    https://www.markertek.com/product/sc...r-male-50-foot

    If you need custom lengths, it's not too hard to make your own cables with a soldering iron. The 3-pin Mini XLR connector is often called TA3M, I believe this comes from the Switchcraft model number for these connectors, but Neutrik/REAN, Remote Audio, Amphenol, and a few other manufacturers also make connectors of this style nowadays. The nice thing is that they are relatively inexpensive, unlike say LEMO connectors.

    And if you don't want to make your own cables, I think most of the places that make custom audio cables (Redco Audio, Gotham Sound, Pro Audio LA, etc.) should be able to make them in whatever lengths you need.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rob norton View Post
    I'm sure this has already come up with the BMP4K/audio peeps but are there off the shelf mini XLR to XLR cables longer than a few feet?

    I want to go from microphone XLR to C70 without needing two adapters in the form of short cables. Or do people like the adapters?

    You could leave them attached and use it as a single cable but I'd rather get rid of the extra connection.
    Personally like the short length ... long enough to bungie to my tripod so that there is no stress on either the mini connector or the camera ... the
    a long Mogami fullsize of whatever length needed. I have not seen any information about how the mini's hold up over time ... would rather replace a
    $15-20 short cable than send the camera in for repair.

    I use these for everything these days ...

    https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...gie_cable.html


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    As another option to the above bungees, I love the Bongo Ties and use them on almost every setup. In fact, I like to keep a few around my wrist on shoot days...just in case a need pops up. Plus, you get the added benefit of feeling like Johnny Depp with all the elaborate wrist decor
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    Quote Originally Posted by davedv View Post
    Not sure how long you need, but there are some longer pre-made cables of this type out there.

    Here are ones in 10 foot and 25 foot lengths:
    https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ..._to_XLR_F.html
    https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...r_male_to.html

    And here are cables in lengths from 1 foot up to 100 feet:
    https://www.markertek.com/product/sc...r-male-50-foot

    If you need custom lengths, it's not too hard to make your own cables with a soldering iron. The 3-pin Mini XLR connector is often called TA3M, I believe this comes from the Switchcraft model number for these connectors, but Neutrik/REAN, Remote Audio, Amphenol, and a few other manufacturers also make connectors of this style nowadays. The nice thing is that they are relatively inexpensive, unlike say LEMO connectors.

    And if you don't want to make your own cables, I think most of the places that make custom audio cables (Redco Audio, Gotham Sound, Pro Audio LA, etc.) should be able to make them in whatever lengths you need.
    Thanks davedv, I wasn't looking hard enough.

    Quote Originally Posted by docmoore View Post
    Personally like the short length ... long enough to bungie to my tripod so that there is no stress on either the mini connector or the camera ... the
    a long Mogami fullsize of whatever length needed. I have not seen any information about how the mini's hold up over time ... would rather replace a
    $15-20 short cable than send the camera in for repair.

    I use these for everything these days ...

    https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...gie_cable.html
    Those cable ties look handy, thanks doc.

    Quote Originally Posted by digitalinnovations View Post
    As another option to the above bungees, I love the Bongo Ties and use them on almost every setup. In fact, I like to keep a few around my wrist on shoot days...just in case a need pops up. Plus, you get the added benefit of feeling like Johnny Depp with all the elaborate wrist decor
    I'm sure the bongoties are great, I just can't see myself using them to wrap cables. But like their description says, for bundling unruly items so I'm sure you'd find new uses constantly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Teddy_Dem View Post
    slashcam posted some footage of the C70. Shot with the same model and at the same location of all their other camera tests, but not on the same day of course, so it can be somewhat of a comparison:
    Love Rob's work on Slashcam ... although there is an occasional WB issue ...

    Interesting to see the progression of her tats ...

    But ... what happened to Ricarda?


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