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    Quote Originally Posted by captslomo View Post
    Maybe it's time for an enterprising young lad to begin distributing foreign puchased Zaxcom units that "fell off a truck."
    That's not the issue, you can buy a Zaxcom unit that is wireless and records internally at about $3k per channel here in the US. The issue is that no other manufacturer else can sell
    their models here in the states that do the same function because of Zaxcom's patent.

    Interestingly, Deity has built a plug-on transmitter for handheld microphones that will let you use it wirelessly AND record internally but only when a microphone is attached
    to the unit that activates the 48V phantom power but not the plug in power that attaching a hard wired lavaliere to it would require. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...tter_with.html

    Other work arounds for US users are to order devices from dealers outside the U.S. I've bought some items (not audio) from www.cvp.co.uk in the UK and from Vistek in Canada but you will pay more and will possibly have to deal with
    customs fees and currency exchange costs.
    It's a business first and a creative outlet second.
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    Quote Originally Posted by captslomo View Post
    Maybe it's time for an enterprising young lad to begin distributing foreign puchased Zaxcom units that "fell off a truck."
    So, are you advocating for someone to fence stolen goods?
    Nobody notices audio... until it's not there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Run&Gun View Post
    And the Zaxcom patent is just further proof of how dumb the US patent system is.
    The patent system is out of whack. Because the patent environment is the way it is, one would be an idiot not to take advantage of it to their benefit. In fact, one is forced to play the game for the sake of survival in certain markets. It's unfortunate for the rest of us.

    I once worked for a technology company. Patents were valued so much we had an annual patent application quota. So of course, you file applications for the stupidest things just to fill the quota. One of our competitors, for fun, filed a patent for a coffee cup holder inside a piece of equipment for people that serviced the equipment. The patent was awarded. It was the equivalent of Xerox putting a coffee cup holder on the inside of a service door on a copy machine. Of course, none of the competitors cared. It was stupid. We all laughed that the patent office awarded the patent.

    [edit] One more note about stupid patents. To give you an idea how companies operate, the company handed out monetary rewards for applications that were accepted by the patent office and another bounty for a patent award. So there was an incentive for everyone to submit an application for everything. Unfortunately for me, I had to review applications for the patent attorneys to filter out the garbage. One person actually submitted a patent application for shelving to hold modems in a lab. The 'novel' idea was to get them off the floor. This was a lab in India. So now you know how whack the patent business is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorBro View Post
    Pending there is no patent issue for this anymore in the USA (if you live here), there might be some in the future. Along with highly desired 32-bit float recording for everything moving forward.

    On a side note, it's not exactly what you're looking for but the DR-10L is popular for the price (and its safety track).

    https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ..._recorder.html
    AFAIK the european version of this records and simultaneously puts out a signal which can be fed to a transmitter e.g. Sennheiser (or presumably a cheap bluetooth for monitoring only). https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tascam-DR-1.../dp/B00QV8L586


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    That's pretty much what this thread is about...USA vs. other locations.

    You can't get that version - the DR-10C - shipped to the USA (at least not legally).

    We have the DR-10L here.


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    I recall the DR-10S (hence the Zaxcom v Teac n/a patent infringement case) was the version with the throughput to a G 100 series Sennheiser Tx. the DR-10L (Lectro) was discontinued all together
    The patent is waste of time because most G series owners would not be purchasing the Zaxcom anyway due to the price difference, and makes it more difficult for folks w/o large gear budgets plus alienating potential Zax customers as well. (Sorry Glen)


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    From the 10C series, the 10CH and 10CS were the ones overseas.

    But the CH was discontinued, while the 10L in the USA [with only internal recording] is a strong seller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick R View Post
    ... The patent is waste of time because most G series owners would not be purchasing the Zaxcom anyway due to the price difference, and makes it more difficult for folks w/o large gear budgets plus alienating potential Zax customers as well. (Sorry Glen)
    That's a brilliant observation. I hadn't thought of it that way.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NorBro View Post
    That's pretty much what this thread is about...USA vs. other locations.

    You can't get that version - the DR-10C - shipped to the USA (at least not legally).

    We have the DR-10L here.
    My apologies, I missed that on the Amazon UK page. I have ordered CDs and Blurays from Amazon UK and Germany is the past without problems, didn't know that sometimes they are not allowed ship to USA


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    But that's what's bizarre...it has nothing to do with Amazon. But the reason they aren't allowed to ship that product here because it's not allowed to be used in the USA because the company who owns the technology inside of it will not allow it.


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