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    SMM z6 - vs the handycam!
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    So my 'covid camera' thread I wanted a little camera to walk around with
    see in the sun
    zoom from 24 to 200 or more (ff exiv)
    audio
    AF
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    small enough to walk with (take the the park with the Mrs)
    all on a budget.

    anyway I ended up deciding on a canon XF400, then seeing a cheap used Nikon Z50 I chose that. Then I saw that a 16-nn DX (S35) lens was more expensive than a 24-xx FX lens (FF35) by a chunk then the price from a Z50 to a Z6 was rather minimalised.

    So I bought a z6 and adapter.

    This is a different route to the Z6 - which I have probably rejected in the past when looking at it as an FS7 beater. Wearing that hat I feel the Z6 and raw is a bit of a mess - it is not an F7/9 Canon 300iii beater. But as I 'handy cam' with bonuses its come out on top (to a nikonite with 50 nikkor lenses who has owned nikons since the 301, nikkormat F3, Fm2, F4, F5, D1, D3, D70, D80, D90 D600 - I kept the 600 and D3)

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    So first of all NO ND - yes this is bad and beaten by the R mount canon and most Handycams. I can get an exposure at F11,100iso100 shutter - not great.

    EVF - this is bigger and clearer than most handycams and not properly sealed from the sun.. like most handycams (but unlike the C200 alexa and other big cameras)

    It includes a whole decent stills camera!

    Lenses are removable (unlike handy cams) offereing everything from walkabout 28-300 through to hard core 'cine' lenses like my manual 1.8 50 nikkor

    A 28-300 lens is similar in range to a handycam, 24-70 or 24-100 offereing a more solid experience - good one lens all day options

    3 rings on the lens (unlike most small handy cams)

    Flap out screen for gutcam, not proerly viable in the sun - like handy cams

    8 bit 100 codec - like most handycams

    Optional plug in 10bit - unlike most handycams

    No XLR - but at least a mic input and HF jack - a big win for handycams

    Camera and FTZ adapter = 2 screws = solid on tripod plate (unlike handycam)

    Cage with top screws available (unlike handycam)

    I think what we see is that handycams could be a better walkaround camera than a 'DSLR'. But because they are poorly executed they are not. The nikon functions well in both handycamery and also has uses as a cinamatographers Bcam

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    For me having the same old nikkor batteries saved $200
    For me owning a SD702 and lots of different mics seperate sound is almost simpler
    For me mixing the chargers with my stills D600 is great
    For me I might be able to bin my D600
    For me having one set of lenses saves space
    XQD cards mix with my FS7
    Will be a decent gimbal camera
    Can do 10bit in the studio (or on location at a push)
    I already have shogun for recording
    F mount fits everything
    Last edited by morgan_moore; 06-05-2020 at 11:05 AM.


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    Are you keeping the camera?

    Always loved Nikon colors. Underrated, IMO.

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    Nice image

    Ill keep it.

    Ive got it on flat profile and the colour is not amazing - mybe I should ramp it to wysywig.

    Overall it may see the 'rebirth' of SMM the (photo) journalist just due to its portability.

    Nick (my chum) and I both started on nikon in the late 80s, both have hated the owning Gh4 and sony A7 line (not as owners) , and both get along with the Z6, we are not sure if we are both biased or it is just better than the GH4.


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    Thank you. In the video above, I used "Neutral" and added saturation and contrast in post.

    I feel like "Flat" is too muted. With these 8-bit low data-rate cameras, I really try to paint by letting the sensor do most of the work.


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    My nikons (D3 D600) for raw still are set to neutral - I guess Ill try that with video too.


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    I have mine set to flat and am pretty amazed at how good it looks straight out of camera. All my Nikons have been set to neutral for stills. I should give neutral a try for video. I definitely prefer the colour to that of my FS5.


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    I had been shooting RAW for some time, but have left the Picture Style set to Standard or Landscape, for the most part. Once I saw this technique, I decided to change my picture style on my camera to Neutral (for Canon cameras) or Flat (on newer Nikons).


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