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    Anyone able to point me at some examples of the varicam 27h and digi lenses? Wanted to see just how sharp those lenses were on the varicam.
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    Sony HVR-Z1u HDV Camera

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    CANON HJ21x7.5 T2.1 HD-EC CINE ZOOM LENS (Keslow Modified)
    Canon YJ19x9B4 KRS (SD)
    Zeiss Digizoom 6-24mm T1.9 Cinema Lens

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    AJA Kona 3 PCIe 4:4:4 Dual Link Card W/ Breakout Box
    Panasonic AJ-HD1400 DVCPRO HD VTR

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    Sorry, memory has faded on this. I knew of dozens of jobs that were shot with this combination but they're all lost like tears in rain.
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    Dang. Its safe to say that line of lenses are the best you can put in front of the varicam's sensor correct? Nothing sharper?
    Cameras
    Sony HDW-F900R Cinealta Cinema ENG Camera
    Sony HVR-Z1u HDV Camera

    LENSES
    CANON HJ21x7.5 T2.1 HD-EC CINE ZOOM LENS (Keslow Modified)
    Canon YJ19x9B4 KRS (SD)
    Zeiss Digizoom 6-24mm T1.9 Cinema Lens

    Recorders
    AJA Kona 3 PCIe 4:4:4 Dual Link Card W/ Breakout Box
    Panasonic AJ-HD1400 DVCPRO HD VTR

    Accessories
    Astro DM-3000 HD-SDI Monitor
    Astro DM-3005 HD-SDI Monitor
    Benro Fluid Head Tripod
    Chrosziel MB 450-01 & CLWAH-F4,5 Matte Box


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    IMO, the resolution is so low on the 27H that the best lenses in front of that sensor would be the most modern glass you can attach (since many lenses today are so much sharper than they were 10 years ago, even consumer photography ones designed for 6K, 8K sensors).

    Many 4K-6K-8K cinematographers do the opposite with their modern cameras and knock down the sharpness with vintage/softer cinema glass, but you may consider doing the opposite if you want to save as much detail and "sharpness" as possible.


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    I was at an event a couple of years ago with Tom Fletcher and he said at one point, they almost threw away a set(slight hyperbole) just to get them off the shelf, because they were taking up space and not being rented. This was of course after s35 cameras started to really hit the market. I've talked to some people that said they were some of the best lenses Zeiss ever made. There are a bunch on eBay right now, including two 8-lens sets. If I still shot sit-down interviews with my Vari, I'd probably consider some.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Krumlauf View Post
    Dang. Its safe to say that line of lenses are the best you can put in front of the varicam's sensor correct? Nothing sharper?
    They are very nice lenses, but resolving power isn’t the only criterion of a good lens. I personally preferred Fuji zooms.
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    Mitch, which Fuji zooms exactly? The HAc zooms? They are going for pretty cheap on ebay right now.
    Cameras
    Sony HDW-F900R Cinealta Cinema ENG Camera
    Sony HVR-Z1u HDV Camera

    LENSES
    CANON HJ21x7.5 T2.1 HD-EC CINE ZOOM LENS (Keslow Modified)
    Canon YJ19x9B4 KRS (SD)
    Zeiss Digizoom 6-24mm T1.9 Cinema Lens

    Recorders
    AJA Kona 3 PCIe 4:4:4 Dual Link Card W/ Breakout Box
    Panasonic AJ-HD1400 DVCPRO HD VTR

    Accessories
    Astro DM-3000 HD-SDI Monitor
    Astro DM-3005 HD-SDI Monitor
    Benro Fluid Head Tripod
    Chrosziel MB 450-01 & CLWAH-F4,5 Matte Box


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    Honestly, it's been nearly a decade since I even thought about 2/3" glass seriously. Just do not bother at all with the "budget" lenses or the non-HD level lenses. You would not believe how much these will degrade your image. A god wide angle zoom (gets much wider but doesn't have the magnification range of a longer lens) is probably the best for you. I'm trying to remember the equivalent to the Canon 11x4.5, I think it was maybe a 4.7? Been too long, but if you get the Canon or Fuji in that range you should be good. For more doc style work where you need a big zoom range but don't need to get as wide, a Canon 21x or the equivalent Fuji (I think it was a 22x) is top notch but heavy. There are compromise zooms around 18x but I was never as happy with them -- neither fish nor fowl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitch Gross View Post
    Honestly, it's been nearly a decade since I even thought about 2/3" glass seriously. Just do not bother at all with the "budget" lenses or the non-HD level lenses. You would not believe how much these will degrade your image. A god wide angle zoom (gets much wider but doesn't have the magnification range of a longer lens) is probably the best for you. I'm trying to remember the equivalent to the Canon 11x4.5, I think it was maybe a 4.7? Been too long, but if you get the Canon or Fuji in that range you should be good. For more doc style work where you need a big zoom range but don't need to get as wide, a Canon 21x or the equivalent Fuji (I think it was a 22x) is top notch but heavy. There are compromise zooms around 18x but I was never as happy with them -- neither fish nor fowl.

    Been saying the same thing about non-HD lenses for years Mitch, and almost no one listens. Because it has to do with money...

    I have two Fuji HA w/a's(13x4.5) and an HA 22x and the 22x is much lighter weight than the wides and a fairly light weight lens, at least in my opinion, overall.


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    Im eying a Digizoom 6-24 and a Fuji HAc zoom on ebay right now. Most likely going to go with the Fuji as ill have money left over to get the rail system for the camera, etc, etc
    Cameras
    Sony HDW-F900R Cinealta Cinema ENG Camera
    Sony HVR-Z1u HDV Camera

    LENSES
    CANON HJ21x7.5 T2.1 HD-EC CINE ZOOM LENS (Keslow Modified)
    Canon YJ19x9B4 KRS (SD)
    Zeiss Digizoom 6-24mm T1.9 Cinema Lens

    Recorders
    AJA Kona 3 PCIe 4:4:4 Dual Link Card W/ Breakout Box
    Panasonic AJ-HD1400 DVCPRO HD VTR

    Accessories
    Astro DM-3000 HD-SDI Monitor
    Astro DM-3005 HD-SDI Monitor
    Benro Fluid Head Tripod
    Chrosziel MB 450-01 & CLWAH-F4,5 Matte Box


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