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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry1908 View Post
    Wow that’s a lot of cameras! I’m in a long term relationship with my C100, I think I’ll pickup a 2nd body if I have enough work thru COViD
    Im getting damn close to getting a panavision mount onto the m42 lens. I removed all the poxy glue off the camera and body. I got one of those cheap M42 adapter that has the little piece of glass in it to help with reaching inf focus and E taped it to the back element of the lens. Im going to boar out the panavision body cap, attach it securely to the Panavision Mount, bingo, done! I have the lens just sitting on the PV mount with double sided 3M tape and E-Tape and its looking better. That back optical element from the adapter did wonders and was only 5 bucks
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    CANON HJ21x7.5 T2.1 HD-EC CINE ZOOM LENS (Keslow Modified)
    Canon YJ19x9B4 KRS (SD)
    Zeiss Digizoom 6-24mm T1.9 Cinema Lens

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    AJA Kona 3 PCIe 4:4:4 Dual Link Card W/ Breakout Box
    Panasonic AJ-HD1400 DVCPRO HD VTR

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    Astro DM-3000 HD-SDI Monitor
    Astro DM-3005 HD-SDI Monitor
    Benro Fluid Head Tripod
    Chrosziel MB 450-01 & CLWAH-F4,5 Matte Box


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    Mike, we've seen some whacky plans with these cameras, and yours might just be the whackiest of all! But it's good fun to see the passion and the problem solving. I'm following your adventures with interest.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grug View Post
    Mike, we've seen some whacky plans with these cameras, and yours might just be the whackiest of all! But it's good fun to see the passion and the problem solving. I'm following your adventures with interest.
    Have you seen other plans? Are their other Genesis' in the wild?
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    Panasonic AJ-HDC27H Varicam Cinema ENG Camera
    Sony HDW-F900R Cinealta Cinema ENG Camera

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    CANON HJ21x7.5 T2.1 HD-EC CINE ZOOM LENS (Keslow Modified)
    Canon YJ19x9B4 KRS (SD)
    Zeiss Digizoom 6-24mm T1.9 Cinema Lens

    Recorders
    AJA Kona 3 PCIe 4:4:4 Dual Link Card W/ Breakout Box
    Panasonic AJ-HD1400 DVCPRO HD VTR

    Accessories
    Astro DM-3000 HD-SDI Monitor
    Astro DM-3005 HD-SDI Monitor
    Benro Fluid Head Tripod
    Chrosziel MB 450-01 & CLWAH-F4,5 Matte Box


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Krumlauf View Post
    Have you seen other plans? Are their other Genesis' in the wild?
    It's an F35 in a Panavision-monogrammed suit, so I'm lumping them all in together.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grug View Post
    It's an F35 in a Panavision-monogrammed suit, so I'm lumping them all in together.
    It's been too long for me to remember the specifics, but when the F35 came out several years after the Genesis, Sony was claiming differences/improvements. Upgraded processor or sensor perhaps? I do remember the F35 claimed very slightly higher sensitivity...500 ISO vs 320.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grug View Post
    It's an F35 in a Panavision-monogrammed suit, so I'm lumping them all in together.
    Its really not. Same concept but different. The Genesis' sensor is different as is the electronics. The f35 is far superior to the genesis in terms of sensitivity and color bit depth. Still though the Genesis Look is unique to itself and I really enjoy it. Actually just re visited an old film "Before the devil knows youre dead" which was shot on genesis. Beautiful film.
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    Panasonic AJ-HDC27H Varicam Cinema ENG Camera
    Sony HDW-F900R Cinealta Cinema ENG Camera

    LENSES
    CANON HJ21x7.5 T2.1 HD-EC CINE ZOOM LENS (Keslow Modified)
    Canon YJ19x9B4 KRS (SD)
    Zeiss Digizoom 6-24mm T1.9 Cinema Lens

    Recorders
    AJA Kona 3 PCIe 4:4:4 Dual Link Card W/ Breakout Box
    Panasonic AJ-HD1400 DVCPRO HD VTR

    Accessories
    Astro DM-3000 HD-SDI Monitor
    Astro DM-3005 HD-SDI Monitor
    Benro Fluid Head Tripod
    Chrosziel MB 450-01 & CLWAH-F4,5 Matte Box


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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlesPapert View Post
    It's been too long for me to remember the specifics, but when the F35 came out several years after the Genesis, Sony was claiming differences/improvements. Upgraded processor or sensor perhaps? I do remember the F35 claimed very slightly higher sensitivity...500 ISO vs 320.
    I thought F35 was rated at 800? Or am I thinking of Red One MX? I believe Genesis is rated at 400 ASA
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    Panasonic AJ-HDC27H Varicam Cinema ENG Camera
    Sony HDW-F900R Cinealta Cinema ENG Camera

    LENSES
    CANON HJ21x7.5 T2.1 HD-EC CINE ZOOM LENS (Keslow Modified)
    Canon YJ19x9B4 KRS (SD)
    Zeiss Digizoom 6-24mm T1.9 Cinema Lens

    Recorders
    AJA Kona 3 PCIe 4:4:4 Dual Link Card W/ Breakout Box
    Panasonic AJ-HD1400 DVCPRO HD VTR

    Accessories
    Astro DM-3000 HD-SDI Monitor
    Astro DM-3005 HD-SDI Monitor
    Benro Fluid Head Tripod
    Chrosziel MB 450-01 & CLWAH-F4,5 Matte Box


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    I think you are right on both, Mike. The F35 started out lower but I think an upgrade brought it up to 800. There was always speculation about underrating those cameras to reduce noise. No-one was embracing it as desirable “texture” back then...ha! I think the D21 had the lowest EI of all of them, maybe that was the 320 one.

    Mostly: once the Alexa landed, we quickly forgot about those cameras and their big outboard recorders...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlesPapert View Post
    I think you are right on both, Mike. The F35 started out lower but I think an upgrade brought it up to 800. There was always speculation about underrating those cameras to reduce noise. No-one was embracing it as desirable “texture” back then...ha! I think the D21 had the lowest EI of all of them, maybe that was the 320 one.

    Mostly: once the Alexa landed, we quickly forgot about those cameras and their big outboard recorders...
    I would have really enjoyed seeing the companies continue to perfect CCD tech instead of going the cheaper route and doing CMOS. Ive always enjoyed CCD chipsets better.
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    Panasonic AJ-HDC27H Varicam Cinema ENG Camera
    Sony HDW-F900R Cinealta Cinema ENG Camera

    LENSES
    CANON HJ21x7.5 T2.1 HD-EC CINE ZOOM LENS (Keslow Modified)
    Canon YJ19x9B4 KRS (SD)
    Zeiss Digizoom 6-24mm T1.9 Cinema Lens

    Recorders
    AJA Kona 3 PCIe 4:4:4 Dual Link Card W/ Breakout Box
    Panasonic AJ-HD1400 DVCPRO HD VTR

    Accessories
    Astro DM-3000 HD-SDI Monitor
    Astro DM-3005 HD-SDI Monitor
    Benro Fluid Head Tripod
    Chrosziel MB 450-01 & CLWAH-F4,5 Matte Box


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    Do you have a source for the info that the F35 and Genesis Sensor's were different?

    Others who know their tech have said the opposite. See JMtheDP's comments in F35 vs Genesis thread. The 35mm CCD was such a low yield, it would make a whole lot more sense to keep the very expensive part of designing, testing, and producing the wafer the same. Look at how long Arri stuck with the exact same sensor, back end processing is cheap and can always squeeze better performance for less money compared to the cost of developing new sensor.

    From a manufacturing standpoint CMOS was always going to win. CCD is incredibly expensive vs CMOS and the yield of good to bad chips is very low. So a lot more testing has to go into checking every single CCD before it can be deemed useable.


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