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    Here's a good visualization of how this thing is spreading:

    https://youtu.be/I5-dI74zxPg

    (From the guy who did the porch thief deterrent videos).


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    That's how I always visualized it too (with any germs).

    It would be good to show a 1-2 minute compressed info/ shorter version to people, especially the hands washing.

    Many require visuals to learn/understand.


     

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    They finally brought up a point on the news that has been bugging me. If you get a parcel, it can be contaminated. They said leave it alone for 24 hours. Then the same holds true for your groceries and take out. They said to put the takeout in the microwave to reheat it to kill the bug. But of course, you have to assume that by handling the takeout, you are contaminated and need to rewash your hands. Trying to stay uncontaminated is really hard. So anytime you want to eat or touch your face, you need to take steps.

    The groceries are contaminated. That either means all your uncooked food has to remain untouched for 24 hours or all the food you eat needs to be cooked.

    We are going to implement the plan. All mail and parcels will stay in the garage for over 24 hours. Most foods will be cooked. We'll still eat fresh fruit, but give it the 24+ hour treatment.


     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul F View Post
    They finally brought up a point on the news that has been bugging me. If you get a parcel, it can be contaminated. They said leave it alone for 24 hours. Then the same holds true for your groceries and take out. They said to put the takeout in the microwave to reheat it to kill the bug. But of course, you have to assume that by handling the takeout, you are contaminated and need to rewash your hands. Trying to stay uncontaminated is really hard. So anytime you want to eat or touch your face, you need to take steps.

    The groceries are contaminated. That either means all your uncooked food has to remain untouched for 24 hours or all the food you eat needs to be cooked.

    We are going to implement the plan. All mail and parcels will stay in the garage for over 24 hours. Most foods will be cooked. We'll still eat fresh fruit, but give it the 24+ hour treatment.
    I read that covid19 could live up to 24 hours on cardboard. Up to 3 days on plastic or metal.

    I feel like the best you can do is minimize the viral load you receive and maximize your immune system health. If you live in a densely populated area, you will probably be exposed. But if you are immunocompromised, I would quarantine goods for longer than 24 hours if possible.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/17/h...-aerosols.html


     

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    Do you think we will get to a point where the major cities will start looting and it will be chaos?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Krumlauf View Post
    Do you think we will get to a point where the major cities will start looting and it will be chaos?
    It's possible if people will need to to survive and/or realize they have nothing to live for anymore.

    (But I don't think we'll get to that point.)


     

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    If the lockdown drags on and folks run out of supplies and money, it would be inevitable. That's the main reason Congress is trying desperately to pass legislation and start handing out monthly checks to people.
    "Money doesn't make films...You just do it and take the initiative." - Werner Herzog


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    Quote Originally Posted by mcgeedigital View Post
    If that's what you think chaos is then I'll take that vs. what really could lie ahead.


     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batutta View Post
    If the lockdown drags on and folks run out of supplies and money, it would be inevitable .
    I agree.

    Lockdown for (a) short period(s) of time is ok in order to mitigate the medical logistical disaster of getting many people sick at the same time.
    But we can't "stay hiding in our caves" forever, we need to face the virus.
    Probably the best strategy is having "lockdown - release" cycles until we either build-up enough immunity or find a vaccine. Also, the virus may go dormant for periods of time or becomes less dangerous due to natural selection.


     

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