Why are RED Cameras Industry Standard?

[achieply]

You mentioned the workflow of RED but since the RED ONE, they have upped the Resolution to from 4K to 5K,6K, and 8K. How do production (especially if they are doing Network TV or Feature Film which typically finish in 2K or 1080p) justify shooting in those resolutions when most computer requires workstation CPU and Graphics Cards but to handle 4K.

So why not choose a camera that shoots 4K or 5K since that's the big requirement for sites like Netflix.

[NorBro]

Depends on which kind of format you're working with.

A $200 laptop from Best Buy can easily handle a Sony a6400's 4K, but not REDCODE RAW or CRL, etc.

Any network TV or real feature film production can easily handle any of it. And finishing in 2K was very popular, but you'll mostly see 4K finishes moving forward as time has moved on. It's basically the same 'updated' cycle every few years:

Shoot HD --> Finish in SD (sometimes...not as popular as the next option)

Shoot 4K or close to it (ARRI) --> Finish in 2K (or 1080p)

Shoot 8K or 6K --> Finish in 4K

[achieply]

Depends on which kind of format you're working with.

A $200 laptop from Best Buy can easily handle a Sony a6400's 4K, but not REDCODE RAW or CRL, etc.

Any network TV or real feature film production can easily handle any of it. And finishing in 2K was very popular, but you'll mostly see 4K finishes moving forward as time has moved on. It's basically the same 'updated' cycle every few years:

Shoot HD --> Finish in SD (sometimes...not as popular as the next option)

Shoot 4K or close to it (ARRI) --> Finish in 2K (or 1080p)

Shoot 8K or 6K --> Finish in 4K

Thanks but then why don't production use either Canon C700 which shoots 5.9k or Sony Venice which is 6K (I know the Venice is a newer camera)

[James0b57]

Thanks but then why don't production use either Canon C700 which shoots 5.9k or Sony Venice which is 6K (I know the Venice is a newer camera)

Welcome to the forum btw.

[NorBro]

Thanks but then why don't production use either Canon C700 which shoots 5.9k or Sony Venice which is 6K (I know the Venice is a newer camera)

Hollywood uses what's proven and convenient, which is why it's so difficult for companies to break through.

Top Gun: Maverick used the VENICE and that's as big as any movie can get. It's indeed a new camera, which is also why I mentioned earlier in the thread that we should watch its progress (since this is the one that can break through).

Sadly, the C700 has an uphill battle for various reasons. Having high-resolution will not help it.

[achieply]

Hollywood uses what's proven and convenient, which is why it's so difficult for companies to break through.

Top Gun: Maverick used the VENICE and that's as big as any movie can get. It's indeed a new camera, which is also why I mentioned earlier in the thread that we should watch its progress (since this is the one that can break through).

Sadly, the C700 has an uphill battle for various reasons. Having high-resolution will not help it.

What has been the problem with the C700? I know the C500 had the issue with needing the a external device to record 4K.

[jcs]

Welcome to the forum btw.

The account was created June 2018; starting this thread was 1st post.

[James0b57]

Top Gun (2020) and Avatar 2 are using the camera because the front detaches into a small head, smaller than Red or Arri M. That allowed for optimal placement of cameras in the cockpit, and for Avatar it allowed for light weight handheld 3D rigs (or whatever tech they are doing these days)

Claudio really pushed the Sony Venice. Some hard lit scenes show they didn’t hold back.

[NorBro]

What has been the problem with the C700? I know the C500 had the issue with needing the a external device to record 4K.

The simple answer is it's unwanted.

On paper, it sounds like a dream but if no one wants it then the specs don't matter.

A camera needs traction, hype...sex sells. A big name needs to shoot a MCU movie on it and then perceptions will change. You can also argue the image quality is less superior to the ARRIs and REDs, but the camera has so much post potential that I'm not sure that reasoning is justifiable.

[James0b57]

The account was created June 2018; starting this thread was 1st post.

Yeah, surprised after a year, this is the first post, and in the wrong subforum. Haha. All good though. People love talking about Red, good or bad.