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    Quote Originally Posted by KyleProhaska View Post
    I've noticed a lot of people online arguing about cpus or graphics or prices when they're still stuck using I/O and hard drive workflows that can't read/write fast enough to even take real advantage of machines they're arguing for/against. So...
    In the PC world most of the newer laptops and desktops use internal NVMe drives like this one for $170 US. There are faster NVMe drives, but paying $170 for 3,400 MB/sec read speed with 2,500 MB/sec write speed is fast enough for most folks.


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    Samsung will start shipments of its PM1733 SSDs this quarter. Among x86 platforms, the PCIe 4.0 capabilities of the drives will only be available on AMD EPYC 7002 and AMD Ryzen 3000 platforms, but the devices will also work with current PCIe 3.0 platforms from Intel and AMD. The manufacturer has not disclosed prices of the new PM1733 SSDs so far.
    https://www.anandtech.com/show/14729...ome-processors

    So the new Mac Pro will be behind the AMD PCIe 4.0 systems when it ships.

    AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 16-Core Zen 2 CPU Hits 5.4GHz Overclock Breaking More Records
    https://hothardware.com/news/amd-ryz...4ghz-overclock

    It is backward compatible with the older PCIe 3.0 interface but using it on that platform will severely hinder overall performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe1946 View Post
    PCI-e 4 is something that probably makes sense for ultra high performance servers, but the costs probably don't make sense for any other market right now. By the time the next chipset for the Mac Pro rolls around Intel will have all those bells and whistles addressed, and the PCI-e 4 SSDs won't have stratospheric pricing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by IanTheM View Post
    PCI-e 4 is something that probably makes sense for ultra high performance servers, but the costs probably don't make sense for any other market right now.
    Every new AMD Zen 3000 consumer motherboard supports PCIe 4 right now. Here's one at NewEgg.com for $145 with a $10 rebate : ASRock X570 PHANTOM AMD Motherboard : $145 after rebate

    PcWorld : PCIe 4.0: Everything you need to know


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    So has AMD done the unthinkable? Beaten Intel by such a large margin that there is no contest? For now, based on our preliminary testing, that is the case. The launch of AMD's second generation EPYC processors is nothing short of historic, beating the competition by a large margin in almost every metric: performance, performance per watt and performance per dollar.
    https://www.anandtech.com/show/14694...pyc-2nd-gen/15


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