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    Best cheap/free HLG to 709 LUT or process?
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    Assuming this works on the S1 as well. Wanting to shoot in HLG on the S1 (higher bitrate HEVC 10-bit capture internal) but then just transcode to ProRes for editing, and convert it down to Rec 709 space and get the extra DR and better codec while waiting for the vlog update in July.

    Are there any good LUTs to download to convert HLG to SDR editing? I did a quick google and saw MysteryBox LUTs, who wanted $250 for a LUT which isn't just ridiculous, it's offensive.

    Recommendations?


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    https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4266166

    Otherwise it looks like shooting a colorchecker and making your own may be the way to go.


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    Emotive Color made a free LUT to convert GH5 HLG to Vlog, but I have no idea if it will be useful with S1 footage. Definitely worth trying.


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    You're not using Resolve?


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    Thank you! I'll check these out. Much appreciated.

    Tom - I've played around, it is wonderful! It's convoluted for the workflow some of my projects (large, long, sometimes utilizing footage over 7 years, etc.) and it's easier for me to just keep it all in Premiere. For shorter form stuff, I want to take advantage of the round tripping workflow to play more. As well, I always have my eye on them for a potential transition away from Adobe. Curious to see what Resolve 16 brings.

    In the meantime, adjustment layers and copy/paste of Lumetri filters with LUTs and conversions is my go to!

    Thanks again, all.


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    You may want to check out the Leeming LUT. The LUT started with Panasonic cameras (HLG, V-Log, and Cine-D), and now has versions for a variety of cameras to align them all to an accurate Rec. 709 base.


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    From a previous post from someone here, this is what I use:
    "Yes, HLG is available with 6K anamorphic mode.
    In another note, besides Paul's excellent HLG LUT, you can also use HLG natively with Resolve 14 for Rec 709 delivery:
    - In Project Settings, under Color Management, Change to Davinci Color Managed
    - Under Color Management select:
    -- Rec 2020 HLG ARIB STD-B67 for Input Color Space
    -- Rec 2020 HLG ARIB STD-B67 for Timeline Color Space
    -- Rec 709 HLG ARIB STD-B67 for Output Color Space
    In this way I am getting quite similar results - I haven't compared color accuracy, etc, but in general both look georgeous.
    Paul's LUT has the advantage that it can be used when the project is not color managed in this way, so you can mix and match footage"

    And from another forum:
    " You can also use the Colour Space Transform OFX (CST) plugin to access the Resolve colour management profiles listed above, but on a clip-by-clip basis like the LUT. However, the CST doesn't clip the levels like the LUT does, so it's a more flexible option.
    I use the CST plugin exclusively because it offers the best of both worlds. "


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    Leeming LUT Pro just upgraded the GH5 to the latest version a few days ago. We've been using it with HLG for 24p / Cine-D for 60p and are getting great results. I highly recommend buying Paul's LUT which comes with free updates to the latest version forever. www.leeminglutpro.com


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    Quote Originally Posted by buggz View Post
    From a previous post from someone here, this is what I use:
    "Yes, HLG is available with 6K anamorphic mode.
    In another note, besides Paul's excellent HLG LUT, you can also use HLG natively with Resolve 14 for Rec 709 delivery:
    - In Project Settings, under Color Management, Change to Davinci Color Managed
    - Under Color Management select:
    -- Rec 2020 HLG ARIB STD-B67 for Input Color Space
    -- Rec 2020 HLG ARIB STD-B67 for Timeline Color Space
    -- Rec 709 HLG ARIB STD-B67 for Output Color Space
    In this way I am getting quite similar results - I haven't compared color accuracy, etc, but in general both look georgeous.
    Paul's LUT has the advantage that it can be used when the project is not color managed in this way, so you can mix and match footage"

    And from another forum:
    " You can also use the Colour Space Transform OFX (CST) plugin to access the Resolve colour management profiles listed above, but on a clip-by-clip basis like the LUT. However, the CST doesn't clip the levels like the LUT does, so it's a more flexible option.
    I use the CST plugin exclusively because it offers the best of both worlds. "
    For HLG and HDR10 I think it is best to use the Rec.2100 definitions.

    If you only want to change the gamut you should make sure you either select gamut mapping at the project level or use the Gamut Mapping OFX because the Rec.2020 gamut is much larger than the Rec.709 gamut.

    Obviously, if you want to convert the HLG gamma/gamut to Rec.709 you also need to tone map (either automatically or manually) as well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JonsMovies View Post
    Leeming LUT Pro just upgraded the GH5 to the latest version a few days ago. We've been using it with HLG for 24p / Cine-D for 60p and are getting great results. I highly recommend buying Paul's LUT which comes with free updates to the latest version forever. www.leeminglutpro.com
    This is by far the best solution. It is also stupid cheap.


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