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    I made a quick and dirty film noir shoot in a couple of hours called 'La Belle Femme'
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    The problem is there is no 'noir' in your video.
    You got your black levels wrong.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cary Knoop View Post
    The problem is there is no 'noir' in your video.
    You got your black levels wrong.
    What's wrong with the black levels?


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    Quote Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
    What's wrong with the black levels?
    It is easy to see on a well-calibrated monitor, but inspection of the waveform readily shows the problem:

    scopes---film-noir.jpg

    Also, while obviously a personal choice, I find the gamma too high for the film noir look, something like this would, in my view, work better:

    film noir_1.1.1.jpg

    as opposed to the original:

    film-noir-orig_1.1.2.jpg
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    Good point. If it were me, I would take the blacks of the doctored still above but pull the midtones up (drive them apart from the blacks) if possible, otherwise whole thing just gets muddy. When you're not using actual lighting you run into these things. I have been grading some available light stuff for a very long time now and with things like DaVinci Resolve there is an astounding amount possible even with "unlit" material.
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    + a little diffusion + lowered highlights + grain etc. to look more like film & less like video:
    Noir.jpg


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    Nice jcs, it's got a kind of Eraserhead gloom to it!

    Another thing one can do to increase the 'film noir' effect is create artificial light for more drama, like so:

    After:
    lighting-after_1.1.1_1.1.2.jpg

    Before:
    lighting-before_1.1.2_1.1.1.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cary Knoop View Post
    Nice jcs, it's got a kind of Eraserhead gloom to it!

    Another thing one can do to increase the 'film noir' effect is create artificial light for more drama, like so:
    […]
    Haha thanks, they don't make 'em like they used to. Wasn't really a fan of Eraserhead (content/"story"), however everything else Lynch has done is pretty excellent! Lived in Seattle around the time of Twin Peaks- used to drive out to the Salish Lodge for hiking. https://www.salishlodge.com/twinpeaks.php

    Cool lighting effect- even with PP CC it's possible to do tracked lighting/corrections for all sorts of lighting in post (Resolve is currently easier/faster for masked+tracked edits (Power Windows)).


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    Some interesting approaches, guys. Suddenly the image feels very flat, lol. I might replace the video..


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