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    Sony VENICE: Impressive Skin Tones
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6URBGt6l9ig


    Impressive color, detail, no visible artifacts, and skin tones. Overall look is pretty excellent!


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    Looks really good. Much better than anything I've seen from the F65. Although the F35 still has more mojo. But Sony might have a real winner with Venice. Even more if the dual ISO works well and if they add more frame rates.


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    Looks great. If they can get the full sensor to run up to 48/50fps, I think they'll have a real winner on their hands.


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    Excellent.
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    That's very sharp, very saturated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bill totolo View Post
    That's very sharp, very saturated.
    And it still looks great, right? Super-detailed & super-saturated is hard to do. And with super shallow DOF- quite an amazing look!

    With high detail there's typically aliasing/artifacts which tends toward a digital look. With weak color science, it's hard to super-saturate skin. Sony's doing super detail, super saturation, and super shallow DOF all at the same time and it works.

    Here's deep DOF with saturated colors along with amazing dynamic range. This footage (shot for IMAX) viewed on a 4K desktop monitor is the first footage that has me thinking a large 4K display in the living room is finally going to be worth it. Finally a "Nyquist Limit" 4K camera is here: look at the bricks and high detail shots- super clean and no aliasing!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKx-Kkw_fRI


    More Venice 4K and some BTS:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EWyDHgcpTI


    Haven't seen F65, Alexa 65, or Red footage with this much clean detail along with no artifacts on YouTube in 4K: all should be capable of "Nyquist Limit" 4K with no significant aliasing (Alexa LF's 4.4K is looking pretty good in 4K- haven't seen any artifacts yet). For those not into super saturation or real detail: it's not over-sharpened, it's real detail, and that's a big difference since there's no pixel crawling/aliasing present as with over-sharpened content. If content calls for a softer look, a Gaussian filter in post can work, or shooting with softer lenses / using diffusion filters can work. Sony's "The Dig" short for the VENICE looked a lot softer in most shots.

    For IMAX type presentations, this reminds of seeing 60Hz films years ago (Showscan). Folks in front of me were crying as the imagery was so powerfully realistic (flying over snow covered mountains). This kind of detailed footage in IMAX at 60fps will be pretty awesome.
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    Leica Thalia lenses might be another reason these VENICE demos are looking so amazing: http://cw-sonderoptic.com/leica-thal...inematography/

    Red Monstro VV 8K footage isn't as detailed as the 6K VENICE, color(?) guess that's an artistic grade:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xLaHg63yK0


    Not clear what lenses (and/or OLPFs) are being used, the Red Dragon 8K VV isn't resolving as much detail as the 6K VENICE (not about sharpness: actual, real detail, "Nyquist Limit" or True 4K):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rVyIvickwI


    As a game developer, image / video processing developer, and filmmaker, this is quite an amazing time to finally see cameras produce True 4K "Nyquist Limit" footage that is so clean and aliasing/artifact free!


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    I've seen 3 films shot on Venice - 2 on Venice and 1 on the FS5 Mark II (with Venice PP) and all three films look amazing. Best Sony color science yet, that can hang or best any camera.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gene_can_sing View Post
    I've seen 3 films shot on Venice - 2 on Venice and 1 on the FS5 Mark II (with Venice PP) and all three films look amazing. Best Sony color science yet, that can hang or best any camera.
    Hey Gene- still have your FS7? Not clear if VENICE color science will be available for the FS7? Would love to see VENICE go side by side with Alexa LF and perhaps C700 FF.

    It was clear Sony could do great color with the F65 and Oblivion & Lucy- nice to see they are finally bringing it to lower end cameras (possibly even better than F65?).


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    Quote Originally Posted by jcs View Post
    Hey Gene- still have your FS7? Not clear if VENICE color science will be available for the FS7? Would love to see VENICE go side by side with Alexa LF and perhaps C700 FF.

    It was clear Sony could do great color with the F65 and Oblivion & Lucy- nice to see they are finally bringing it to lower end cameras (possibly even better than F65?).
    Coming out soon. FS7 MKiii. The same as FS7 MKii but
    with Venice color science....😉


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