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    That's why we have external sound recorders


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    Quote Originally Posted by tillhavis View Post
    The more I think about any new DVX the more certain I am it needs to be a lot smaller and lighter than anything thatís gone before, even the EVA1.
    That's not my preference. I'd rather have something more like the Ursa Mini Pro - lots of readily available and usefully placed switches - and a solid, not heavily plasticized body. I want a camcorder that will last and that can make the most of the (e.g.) GH5s sensor.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bjewett View Post
    That's not my preference. I'd rather have something more like the Ursa Mini Pro - lots of readily available and usefully placed switches - and a solid, not heavily plasticized body. I want a camcorder that will last and that can make the most of the (e.g.) GH5s sensor.
    I dont think you need to compromise these features by making the camera even bigger bjewett;
    The GH5/s and EVA1 already have all the features needed. IMO all is needed is an upgraded sensor and
    lens in a smaller and lighter form factor.
    Technology is improving and allowing these features to be put in a smaller body so why go bigger when you can
    have them in a smaller lighter package without compromising.

    The GH5/s is already a small camera and has most of the features any new DVX would have.
    Just include the GH5/s, EVA1 features in a smaller lighter body with built in SDI, HDMI, Dual XLR's, Built in ND's
    IBIS etc....

    I respect you opinion, but I think you can have all these features in a much smaller and lighter body
    so why go bigger, especially when the camera will more than likley have a fixed lens. As for being rugged
    the current DVX200 is well able to handle most situations I find myself in. Some of the doors and covers
    could be a bit more robust and ruberised / with better water resistance but apart from that IMO the current DVX200
    is pretty rugged, just too big and heavy for run and gun and all day shooting.
    JMO. Regards
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    IMHO, DVX200 size is just right. I can put it in a shoulder when I need it and nothing extra is required for that. And let's not forget its size allows to put controls in the right places... well, I'm not a pro, so...


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    If you look at SONY - the new Z90 and the PXW-Z150 are vey different sizes but (according to a SONY specialist) except for controls you don't have room for on the smaller version, they are effectively the same camera. Even the lens's appear to have identical characteristics.

    Having said that, my wish list is a scaled down DVX200 (about 2 lbs lighter) a fixed lens, the same sensor as the GH5s including dual gain with the room and processing power for robust IS and rock solid auto focus when needed. Similar record settings and picture profile. In other words for people who really want an ENG style camcorder a DVX200 with the heart of a GH5s.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jmnpro View Post
    I was at an event last weekend shooting with my DVX200, when one of the band members walked up to me and commented "Now THAT'S a SERIOUS camera!". It's funny how things change, because I used to get similar comments when shooting with full size Sony DSR cameras back in the day, then when I switched to a Sony EX1R (about the same size as the DVX), the comments stopped. It's all about perception. I am no spring chicken, and my muscles get sore after a day and night of handheld shooting. But I can live with the size of the DVX. Better low-light and image quality, improved LCD and TC/Genlock would be more important. Also, I love the Panasonic colors, but even shooting 24p, the image, while pleasing, still looks like video - not as filmic as my LS300. The LS300 is a Super 35 sensor, so maybe not a fair comparison. But it is also a $2,500 camera (without lens) compared to the more expensive DVX.
    Id go for an update about 2 lbs lighter with the GH5s sensor. But if all they did was more or less keep the same body but ended up with a standard fixed lens camcorder with GH5s low light sensitivity, that could be a bit of a game changer in a camcorder in that class. Then internal 400Mb all I and 10 bit and all of that. wow.


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    This is a rough mock up of my ideal size for any new DVX.
    If Panasonic can keep the camera length under 10" and reduce the weight and height as well as including the
    additional specifications (below) I think they could potentially have the best selling fixed lens run and gun/broadcast/documentary camera
    on the market.

    DVX300.jpg

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    Similar body design to the EVA1 including side Handle
    and updated viewfinder
    Internal 4K 10bit 4:2:2 with V-Log
    Wider Angle and faster Lens
    Improved Low Light Sensitivity
    Better AF and Focus Tracking
    One push AF like the DVX200
    5 Axis IBIS
    Same Connections as DVX200 plus TC and Genlock.
    SDI, HDMI, USB3, Dual XLR, Inbuild ND's etc...
    Remote Wireless tablet/iphone control plus live preview
    Improved daylight viewable 4-5" Touchscreen positioned anywhere on the body.
    Raw output would be an added bonus for Indi Shooters, and
    would also distinguish it from the GH5s and make it a great EVA1
    B camera.
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    I will never purchase a video camera without a viewfinder. Period. It is the only screen you can trust out in the field. These types of cameras are made for single person crews. Also, some of the best stabilization comes from having the viewfinder up against your face. I would be very disappoint if the industry saw the omission of viewfinders as a cost savings measure...


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    Ok Bassman just for you the worst cut and paste viewfinder in history !


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    Now you are talkin' ! I would be happy with the size of my PX270 but I fear the lens is going to be the issue. Your list and mockup are spot on. That would get me excited or a 1" P2 camera with similar specs.


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