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    Quote Originally Posted by puredrifting View Post
    Smart. Gimbals have a lot of particulars and quirks about them and there is no substitute for actually shooting with one before spending the cash. I have bought three gimbals so far and not one of them has lived up to expectations for various reasons. Gimbals kind of remind me of the Model T days when buying a car wasn't the commodotized, sanitized experience it is in modern times. Each car had it's own set of quirks and shortcomings, just like each gimbal seems to. You cannot know if it's the right tool for the job until you at least shoot some extensive tests and screen them on a large screen to see exactly what the quality of movement and control are.
    What are you using now? I remember us discussing gimbals when they first announced the C200 so I'm curious what your opinion is now that you own one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angry Leprechaun View Post
    What are you using now? I remember us discussing gimbals when they first announced the C200 so I'm curious what your opinion is now that you own one.
    Funny you mention Angry, I sold two of my three gimbals and only own the Zhiyun Crane now which I use with my 80D or a friends Fujinon XT-2 when 4K is needed. I have been shooting a lot of handheld with the C200 and I don't feel as if I need or want to use a gimbal for it as the whole unmotivated roaming camera thing has become tiresome to me. If I am shooting a stationary subject but moving around them, I am liking traditional shoulder mounted handheld better than what a gimbal gives me and I rarely need to do walk and talks to track with a subject that often where it would be better with a gimbal. I find that overall, full size gimbals with larger cameras like the C200 and C300 MKII are rarely needed and I have several friends who own Ronins and MoVIs who rarely use them because they are a PITA to rig, balance and use, they all take time and are not very efficient when you have minimal crew and minimal time to setup.
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    C200B on the Ronin-M is a dream. Although I'm sure you'd lose some of the ease of setup/balancing with the full C200 as the viewfinder would surely restrict the motion. Here are some pics of my setup:
    https://www.sharegrid.com/sandiego/l...gimbal-bundle#


    That being said, expecting gimbal footage to feel like steadicam footage will almost always disappoint, but if you use a lens with stabilization and plan for some warp stabilizer in post you can get some great stuff.


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    Could the C200(not C200B) fully tilt in a Ronin M+Canon 24/40 or 10-18 stm lens?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arturo Sánchez Becerra View Post
    Could the C200(not C200B) fully tilt in a Ronin M+Canon 24/40 or 10-18 stm lens?
    I highly doubt it. There's just enough clearance to do it with the B, so adding a viewfinder and I would expect the results to be very similar to when I had my C100mkii on it - which not only limited the tilt up, but also made balancing more difficult and less precise because of the guesswork required in setting the vertical balance without the ability to fully tilt up


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    Resurrecting this thread. Has anyone flown a C200 or C200b on a Mōvi M5? I think I'm going to rent the combo next month if it'll work. Just from the footage I've seen online the M5 seems to handle quick and unpredictable movements the best, and the most stable footage I've seen at 24fps (You can get away with worse at 60 or 120p). I saw this video where they put a C100 on it and it looks like a great match: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZxwiSkNlf0

    I'm probably going to go with the C200b with a couple primes, so if anyone has a similar setup with an M5 I'd love to see it.
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    I didn't try it on Movi, but I've tested C200 on a Crane 2 without the monitor and with 50/1.2L and 10-18, and it works great even not balanced at all, seems like motors are very strong. I will try with the LCD in a couple of days, It looks to me it will work. Crane 2 is really smooth and is much lighter and smaller setup then my Glidecam HD2000 with C200..


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    Quote Originally Posted by puredrifting View Post
    Funny you mention Angry, I sold two of my three gimbals and only own the Zhiyun Crane now which I use with my 80D or a friends Fujinon XT-2 when 4K is needed.
    Speaking of angry. When is Canon going to release a half-decent SLR for video? I mean come on, Canon originated the SLR video revolution and they've done virtually nothing since the 5D Mark II was released.

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    Quote Originally Posted by puredrifting View Post
    the whole unmotivated roaming camera thing has become tiresome to me.
    I like an occasional wide angle shot. But wide-angle gimbal shots are really overused. I shoot a lot of my gimbal footage at 100mm and really like that look. It's less controlled and more organic, but you can get different looks than shooting handheld.

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    Fujinon XT-2 when 4K is needed.
    How is the XT-2 for matching with the C200? Not really happy with the look of my Sony SLRs.


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    I own a C200b along with a MōVI M5. Used the setup multiple times so far and it has worked great. Wouldn’t mind having the longer monitor cable, but other than that, it’s great.


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