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    Best sources for learning VlogL grading?
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    Hello, I have come to the conclusion that Vlog is the way to go with GH5.
    But since Im not so good at grading can anybody recommend me some links, youtubers etc where I can find best info what the correct workflow would be
    when handling VlogL.

    Thanks for any replies and sorry for writing here so much.


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    The first thing I would recommend is to stop applying all kind of (non technical) LUTs and try to do grades yourself.
    Especially avoid LUTs that make snake oil promises, like claiming they "fix skin tones" or make your video "look like an Alexa".

    You, by using your eyes, ARE the best LUT in town!

    Personally I think this is the best workflow:

    1. Convert the log format to the target colorspace and gamma (preferably using input transforms)
    2. Fit the resulting curve within the target dynamic range
    3. Apply color correction and creative color grading

    So how does this work in practical terms? Log grading is not any different from non-log grading.

    Step 1, the conversion, is a technical process, step 2 requires looking at the scopes and monitor to see if all values are within range and if the ranges are consistent beyond a single clip, step 3 is no different from non-log grading.

    I think currently the best affordable NLE is DaVinci Resolve. For $299 you have the full studio version!

    If your NLE does not have input transforms you would have to apply a LUT but be very careful if the LUT:

    - is applicable range wise (full versus limited range)
    - does not clip any data
    - is applicable for the color space of the camera you use
    Last edited by Cary Knoop; 05-18-2017 at 07:25 AM.


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    Also look into Leeming Lut and Logarist. Both are corrective or base luts that don't focus on a baked in look. Logarist is a set of luts that you still need to do a certain amount of manual grading with.

    Here are some tutorials on grading log:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5JMvpg8t5w
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94OFKmHbyF4
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOJnLO5qTWE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA2mv20I-0E


    Great info from Barry Green on how to expose and shoot V-log
    http://pro-av.panasonic.net/en/dvx4k...ef_vol6_en.pdf

    Other articles on shooting log
    https://www.hdvideopro.com/columns/h...-log-exposure/
    http://www.danielhaggett.com/blog/26...tage-correctly
    http://wolfcrow.com/blog/how-to-expo...-the-sony-a7s/

    Finally the tools I mentioned above which can help
    http://www.logarist.com
    http://www.leeminglutone.com


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    Grading raw or log is kind of like playing golf. Just about anybody can do it but it is very difficult to master. It really comes down to practice and experience. Just keep working with it like you would a sport and you will get better. There is really no math formula to plug in and there you go you are a colorist. I don't want to discourage you at all but it really does come down to practice. Which is really true of any aspect of what we do. You need practice and understanding to be a better editor, shooter, grader, designer, story teller, actor, animator, or whatever else we do.

    Learn as much as you can about using scopes. They are there for a reason and the professionals use them as much as a carpenter uses a hammer.


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    Oh yeah invest in a good color chart. Like scopes it is a very useful tool to help with color grading. Not every shot we take have the colors in it we need to judge grading. Having a color chart helps know what a blue, red, green and many other colors in the scene should really look like.

    You don't use them on every shot but if you use it once in each scenario it can help direct the color for all those similar shots. When you get really good at seeing color you may not need one but starting out it is a good tool to help you.


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    Hey bud. Just made you a quick intro to color correcting vlog. Not sure what your knowledge is in resolve but check it out below. Disclaimer i am no way a professional, just an enthusiast.


    https://youtu.be/0aawExWJU60


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    Quote Originally Posted by CustomerGH4 View Post
    Hello, I have come to the conclusion that Vlog is the way to go with GH5.
    But since Im not so good at grading can anybody recommend me some links, youtubers etc where I can find best info what the correct workflow would be
    when handling VlogL.

    Thanks for any replies and sorry for writing here so much.
    You might want to contact Denver Riddle @ Color Grading Central He offers FREE online events on how to improve your color grading in DaVinci Resolve using the same proven methods Hollywood Colorists use. E-mail: denver@colorgradingcentral.com He also has a great plug-in for FCPX called Color Finale you might like to check out


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    Quote Originally Posted by theillestmc12 View Post
    Hey bud. Just made you a quick intro to color correcting vlog. Not sure what your knowledge is in resolve but check it out below. Disclaimer i am no way a professional, just an enthusiast.


    https://youtu.be/0aawExWJU60
    Your levels are already wrong, v-log-l operates between 128 and 768, if you have anything above that you have your levels wrong. It should not run below 128 as well (but Panasonic apparently decided to run the noise to slightly below 128. I would recommend clipping everything below 128 during transcoding otherwise you might introduce unnecessary noise during editing).


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    Thanks guys for the responses!
    Will start learning grading asap.


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