I am using Zoom H1 to record audio feed from most of my wedding/corporate jobs.
Untill last month I had a audio feed from a mixer, the signal is too hot for the H1.
even i set the input level to lowest the sound is still distorted.
I found some solution online by using some attenuator pad (-10 to -30db)
But I got an interesting reply last week, I asked another local sound guy.
he came up with another solution, he told me that using a Sennheiser G3 wireless transmitter will able to lower the input level without using pads?
he said stacking the pad is usually a bad idea, only use it on the last choice.
Is is true or he is just trolling me?
Actually I am considering a wireless lav mic kit between Rode Link and Sennheiser G3.
If this is true will the Rode Link also can do the same?
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03-20-2017 10:35 AM
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03-20-2017 11:06 AM
A pad is transparent, and 100% reliable. The best wireless will be nearly as good, and mostly reliable. A pad is pennies, wireless is many pounds - using wireless to deal with level mismatches is a crude and wildly unreliable way of doing things. Buy a variety of pads in -10dB to -30dB versions, and have enough spare for a holiday.
03-20-2017 12:22 PM
The G3 system can take a line level input without having to have a pad, but you really have to have a need for a wireless system, not just for having proper level. If you want to just stick with a recorder then either use pads with what you are using, or get a recorder that can take a proper line level input.
For wedding and corporate gigs, I'd recommend getting wireless system so you can properly monitor the audio anyway. Putting a recorder one someone and walking away is pretty risky, and I don't recommend it. I'd also recommend a boom mic, since that will sound the best, but I realize for wedding stuff you probably don't want to have a boom op running around and the people at the wedding probably wouldn't like that either. For corporate gigs, though, a boom mic should be your go-to microphone.
03-20-2017 01:58 PM
Distortion from a house console is a common complaint/query. Most consoles have a +4dB XLR and/or 1/4" TRS outputs, and unbalanced -10dB via RCA connectors. Either will overload a Microphone level input (common to budget recorders) and will distort (the input stage) regardless of the record level setting.
As Dave stated, the G2/3 body pack Tx. has a line level input (wiring configuration), which is -10dB, so a +4 console feed so that 'could' even distort that as well (depending on how hot it's driven). A DI with multiple or variable attenuation is one of the best solutions IMO. Most have a ground lift as a bonus.
03-20-2017 02:18 PM
A wireless, as others have indicated, is an awful expensive attenuator. Cheaper to buy a better recorder. I would think a pad would add less noise than that wireless unit.Tom
03-20-2017 02:32 PM
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- Central NY
Make sure you buy a pad in a metal container to help prevent RFI. These were always very nice http://vintageking.com/shure-a15as-i...FRtWDQodaSUFug , but a line to mic pad will need to be at least 30db but possibly more like 50db depending on the mic input. Also you may want a 600 ohm to 150 ohm version (150 on the mic side).
03-20-2017 03:06 PM
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- Central NC, USA
Wireless is a last resort. Not a first. Last. Wireless costs way more, is considerably less reliable, and sounds worse than your standard $20 XLR cable.
03-20-2017 05:27 PM
A Hosa AT-448 is affordable and offers 20, 30 & 40 db of attenuation. Otherwise pads can be made DYI with a few dirt cheap resistors. I have a variety of 6 to -50dB pads.. I also never leave home w/o some 1:1 isolation transformers. I have Sescom IL-19s. Recently Tower Products/Sescom intro'd a lower cost version that's half the price of the venerable IL-19. The Sescom SES-XLR-ISO Inline XLR Line Matching Transformer needs to be plugged into a cable were the IL-19 can plugged directly into any XLR input or output. Tower products (Markertek.com) also has a four pack of IL-19s for $150. They normally sell for around $45-50 ea.
03-20-2017 09:58 PM
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- Jan 2016
Thanks guys for the valueable info!
I am about to order this Hosa AT-448 attenuator
I think I will try the pad for now.
@Greg_E what is the "600 ohm to 150 ohm" thing? will the Hosa AT-448 attenuator also have these feature too?
Btw which recorders do have proper line input can take any level from a board?
Zoom H5? or Tascam DR-60D MKII?
Thanks a tons guys! saved me alot of pounds
03-22-2017 10:18 AM
"what is the "600 ohm to 150 ohm" thing? will the Hosa AT-448 attenuator also have these feature too?"
- You don't need to worry about impedance much these days, unless your dealing with a high-Z instrument. An electric guitar pickup for instance.
"Which recorders do have proper line input can take any level from a board? Zoom H5? or Tascam DR-60D MKII?"
- The Zoom H4n line input is -10dB. The H5 and most of the later models Zoom w/ the XLR combo jack are +4dB line in. Most (if not all) of the DR series Tascams (w/ XLRs) are +4dB as well, except the 1st generation DR-100. A -10dB feed from a board would be low for a +4 input. In that case, a DI is recommended which has a mic level output. You can get a unbalanced -10 to balanced +4 converter, but they require power and are a lot more $$ than a passive DI.
Last edited by Rick R; 03-22-2017 at 10:25 AM.