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    Extremely useful thread, I´m newbie flex panel, anyone here has info regarding Cineroid FL400 / 800 s and Westcott flex, one man band for indoor corporate videos, trying to find a good ratio output-CRI-portability thks a lot!


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    A quick update re battery power for my two bicolour FL-3060s.

    I noticed that the Travor store on Aliepxress had them back in store, so I ordered a couple for about 43 euros each (the price has since jumped 20 euros, go figure…) http://tinyurl.com/y48ppbg8.

    They arrived yesterday, a week or so after the order.

    On unpacking them, I saw to my surprise that they included four NPF550-style batteries and two chargers per pack (with, to me, useless US-style plugs, but hey, I have about 2,769 NPF chargers lying around…). Given that the batteries/chargers included are worth around 50 euros alone, Travor is effectively paying me 7 euros to take the packs off their hands. Great!

    As for the build quality, well, you get what you pay for (in my case, -7 euros per pack). I can't imagine them lasting more than an hour on a commercial set, but babied by a one-man bander they should be ok. For the price. The zips, in particular, which close the surrounding "bag" look worryingly flimsy.

    Another negative is that the connection to the light is slightly different to that for mains power. The actual "plug" bit is the same, but there is NO surrounding locking mechanism, and so the connection is held in place by the flimsy (2.5?) plug iteslf, which is fighting against the gravity of the cord dangling below trying to pull it out. If you so much as lightly tap the connection, the light blinks. Some gaff tape will be required for peace of mind.

    The battery connections/locks inside the pack are also not very sturdy. They work fine with the included 550s, but my 970s slip out constantly due to their weight. It is also quite a struggle to close the bag with the bigger batteries (and that weak zip strains worryingly).

    Anyway, they do seem to work, which is all you can ask for, I think. As for battery life, I haven't tested it yet. If I get time, I'll do so in the next couple of days.

    Hope this is of some help to some of you out there!


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    For anyone still interested in these lights, I measured the CRI and TLCI of these lights, they aren't very good.
    TLCI was around 80 and R9 was 40ish.


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    Quote Originally Posted by scotchtape View Post
    For anyone still interested in these lights, I measured the CRI and TLCI of these lights, they aren't very good.
    TLCI was around 80 and R9 was 40ish.
    That doesn't surprise me for the tlci. However I would have thought the r9 would be a bit higher. I've had two of the fositan 3060 versions for over a year. They really are quite handy for the price. Used them with quasar science tubes, litemats, skypanels, falcon eyes, hmi's, etc. They can serve as a key or as a fill without much of an issue as far as shifts compared to other lights. The remotes are extremely handy and on bigger sets these are great to just place around set to help with ambience when you need something quick that you can dial in color temp and brightness. I think the falconeyes are a better choice for an all around flex light with great color, but for the price these are bright and handy. The only issue I've had is the included power supply seems to have an issue where they just give up over time. I just bought some other 24v led power supplies for like $12 and they seem to be working. Definitely a place for these in a kit where price is a consideration.


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    Quote Originally Posted by scotchtape View Post
    For anyone still interested in these lights, I measured the CRI and TLCI of these lights, they aren't very good.
    TLCI was around 80 and R9 was 40ish.
    I'd be interested in your full CRI/TLCI readings. Never got to test mine.
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    Have there been any developments in flexible lights over the last few months? The price of the FL-3060 seems to have jumped again I note.

    I'm looking for a couple of 1x3 or 1x4 lights at the budget end of the market. I already have a FalconEyes 24TDX so thinking that the 29TDX (1x4) might be a good bet in terms of colour matching. But at £370 each they aren't quite as budget as I'd like, but actually not a million miles away from Travor pricing given the increases.


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    I often bank 2 of the 3060A for a 1'x4' panel - they will take Kino accessories. the 1x2s can still be had for about $150.
    that said I would stick with falconeyes just for color matching, unless you can be absolutely sure you'l not use them together.


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    BTW I bought a Sekonic C700 Spectrometer. Here are results from various LEDs I tested:

    Notes: Basically the Falconeyes lights are quite a bit better for color than the Travors and run warmer and without the 1/4 green shift. Travor is very convenient and I use them a lot with 2 velcro'ed into a 3x2 softbox but I'm thinking of swapping them out for High CRI LED strips I have been using for some DIY projects which I also tested. Interesting to see how my RGBDT DIY lights fare for CRI depending on how much you use narrow spectrum RGB to supplement. Used very sparingly RGB can increase CRI slightly but quickly crashes the CRI as it introduces big spikes on the spectrum. Basically it's hard to recommend Travors based on this unless you are sure they look fine on your camera and can deal with the low CRI especially the low R9.

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    Measuring Mode,Ambient
    Digital / Film,Digital
    CCT [K],5850
    ⊿uv,-0.0041
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    Illuminance [fc],5230
    Reference CCT [K],6000
    LB Index [MK⁻¹],-4
    LB Camera Filter,82
    LB Lighting Filter,L218 1/8 CTB
    CC Index,0.6G
    CC Camera Filter,CC05G
    CC Lighting Filter,L278 1/8 PLUS G, L278 1/8 PLUS G
    CRI Ra,90.5
    CRI R1,91.9
    CRI R2,96.2
    CRI R3,95.4
    CRI R4,89.5
    CRI R5,90.4
    CRI R6,89.6
    CRI R7,89.9
    CRI R8,80.9
    CRI R9,50.6
    CRI R10,89.4
    CRI R11,89.7
    CRI R12,66.8
    CRI R13,94.4
    CRI R14,98.1
    CRI R15,91.1

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    Digital / Film,Digital
    CCT [K],3265
    ⊿uv,-0.0051
    Illuminance [lx],96500
    Illuminance [fc],8960
    Reference CCT [K],6000
    LB Index [MK⁻¹],-140
    LB Camera Filter,80A, 82
    LB Lighting Filter,L201 FULL CTB
    CC Index,0.5G
    CC Camera Filter,CC10G, CC05G
    CC Lighting Filter,L246 1/4 PLUS G
    CRI Ra,88.1
    CRI R1,89.3
    CRI R2,97.1
    CRI R3,94.5
    CRI R4,86.1
    CRI R5,89.4
    CRI R6,94.0
    CRI R7,84.5
    CRI R8,69.6
    CRI R9,34.1
    CRI R10,92.2
    CRI R11,86.4
    CRI R12,76.6
    CRI R13,92.0
    CRI R14,98.2
    CRI R15,84.3

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    Measuring Mode,Ambient
    Digital / Film,Digital
    CCT [K],2910
    ⊿uv,-0.0034
    Illuminance [lx],19200
    Illuminance [fc],1780
    Reference CCT [K],6000
    LB Index [MK⁻¹],-177
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    LB Lighting Filter,L201 FULL CTB, L218 1/8 CTB
    CC Index,0.4G
    CC Camera Filter,CC05G
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    CRI Ra,95.8
    CRI R1,94.2
    CRI R2,96.3
    CRI R3,98.0
    CRI R4,96.0
    CRI R5,94.7
    CRI R6,93.8
    CRI R7,98.4
    CRI R8,95.1
    CRI R9,88.7
    CRI R10,94.3
    CRI R11,93.3
    CRI R12,82.9
    CRI R13,94.1
    CRI R14,97.7
    CRI R15,93.7

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    Title,RX-18TD_01_5245K

    Measuring Mode,Ambient
    Digital / Film,Digital
    CCT [K],5245
    ⊿uv,-0.0010
    Illuminance [lx],64200
    Illuminance [fc],5960
    Reference CCT [K],6000
    LB Index [MK⁻¹],-24
    LB Camera Filter,82A
    LB Lighting Filter,L218 1/8 CTB
    CC Index,0.1G
    CC Camera Filter,-----
    CC Lighting Filter,-----
    CRI Ra,95.8
    CRI R1,94.3
    CRI R2,95.7
    CRI R3,98.3
    CRI R4,96.1
    CRI R5,94.9
    CRI R6,93.6
    CRI R7,97.1
    CRI R8,96.4
    CRI R9,90.0
    CRI R10,90.8
    CRI R11,92.6
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    CRI R13,94.2
    CRI R14,98.8
    CRI R15,93.5

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    Title,LED STRIP 3200K_01_3101K

    Measuring Mode,Ambient
    Digital / Film,Digital
    CCT [K],3101
    ⊿uv,-0.0022
    Illuminance [lx],63500
    Illuminance [fc],5900
    Reference CCT [K],6000
    LB Index [MK⁻¹],-156
    LB Camera Filter,80A, 82A
    LB Lighting Filter,L202 1/2 CTB, L202 1/2 CTB
    CC Index,0.2G
    CC Camera Filter,CC05G
    CC Lighting Filter,-----
    CRI Ra,97.6
    CRI R1,97.8
    CRI R2,98.2
    CRI R3,98.3
    CRI R4,99.0
    CRI R5,97.6
    CRI R6,95.9
    CRI R7,96.6
    CRI R8,97.1
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    CRI R10,98.7
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    Title,LED STRIP 6000K_01_6635K

    Measuring Mode,Ambient
    Digital / Film,Digital
    CCT [K],6635
    ⊿uv,0.0046
    Illuminance [lx],83500
    Illuminance [fc],7750
    Reference CCT [K],6000
    LB Index [MK⁻¹],16
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    LB Lighting Filter,L223 1/8 CTO
    CC Index,0.1M
    CC Camera Filter,CC05M
    CC Lighting Filter,L249 1/4 MINUS G
    CRI Ra,93.7
    CRI R1,94.4
    CRI R2,97.0
    CRI R3,95.5
    CRI R4,91.1
    CRI R5,91.6
    CRI R6,91.7
    CRI R7,95.7
    CRI R8,92.8
    CRI R9,84.0
    CRI R10,90.5
    CRI R11,91.5
    CRI R12,62.3
    CRI R13,95.8
    CRI R14,97.7
    CRI R15,92.1
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