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    Well based on Rick's sage opinion, I ordered a couple of TL40's a few weeks ago and got them this week and put them to work. I own a few 801's which replaced my Trams as they either clogged up or gave way at the mic meets cable point. First I was very impressed with the size of of the TL40, very small and after using them equally impressed with the quality of sound. So thanks Rick and kudos to Oscar Sound for putting out another great product for a very affordable price. Another bonus is supporting a small business in my neighbour country.
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    How does the TL-40 compare to the 801 regarding self noise?
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    I wish I could answer that Paul, but I am not qualified. What I can say, is in both situations that I used the TL-40, one mounted in clear sight with a tie clip and the other, hidden in the knot of necktie. In both cases, there was nothing in the path of the microphone and it sounded great. I do mostly talking heads, and if it is more complicated, I hire someone to join the team who can answer questions like yours. Being an old school person and despite being for most of the time a "one man band" I am a big believer in using a pro audio person when the gig calls for it.
    But I will do a side by side comparison tomorrow with my mixer and post my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul F View Post
    How does the TL-40 compare to the 801 regarding self noise?
    Your preamp and wireless system noise will likely be much more of a factor than the mic's inherent noise (not to mention environmental noise). I never had a noise issue with any of them.


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    I find the TL-40 noise to be objectionable. What am I doing wrong? Please check the audio file I posted on JW.
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    Does anyone know if the 801 is more sensitive than the 802?


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    I have never noticed an obvious difference. A lavaliere's presence peak is usually accomplished though physical alterations which likely is within the capsule. The element is the same AFAIK. Why not email Dave at OST for a definitive answer.


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    If you occasionally hide the mic under clothing (like taping it), the 801 is the better choice.

    If not, the 802 is for everyday interviews, etc.


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    Quote Originally Posted by scorsesefan View Post
    Does anyone know if the 801 is more sensitive than the 802?
    All you have to do is look at the frequency response. 801 has a slight boost in the highs to high mids. 802 doesn't, but has a VERY slightly higher boost in the mids.
    This difference in mid levels likely would not be perceptible at all.

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    Hide your lav = 801
    Visible lav = 802

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    Thanks. I'm looking for a lav that I don't have to drive the gain up too much, as I do with the 802 on my dr-10l and now the Rode WG II. My ME2s and the Tentacle lav are more sensitive but the acoustics aren't nearly as good as the Oscar mics. Any suggestions? With the e recorder the 802 works well because of the 32 bit float...


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