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    Cinelike D vs V log on the GH4 - Thoughts?
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    Is V log really worth all the hype? I hate monitoring such flat video, and from the tests I see theres usually not any vast improvement after applying a lut - maybe a small increase in Dynamic Range, but in some cases I actually preferred the Cinelike D shots.
    Maybe it would work in the future if I was able to afford an EVF that would let me monitor with a LUT, but right now, I think I prefer the simpler workflow of Cinelike D.
    Is it just me or does it seem like a lot more work for not much of an improvement?
    What do you guys think.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Nash View Post
    Is V log really worth all the hype? I hate monitoring such flat video, and from the tests I see theres usually not any vast improvement after applying a lut - maybe a small increase in Dynamic Range, but in some cases I actually preferred the Cinelike D shots.
    Maybe it would work in the future if I was able to afford an EVF that would let me monitor with a LUT, but right now, I think I prefer the simpler workflow of Cinelike D.
    Is it just me or does it seem like a lot more work for not much of an improvement?
    What do you guys think.
    I think you answered this for yourself.



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    Cinelike D, but then I may be rather biased ;)

    But seriously, all my testing in A-B comparisons etc has shown that Cinelike D with the right settings gives every bit as much dynamic range as V-Log L, but without any of the issues.

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    I did not like Vlog at all. Looked terrible to me. For what I do (lowlight events) Cinelike D works great. Less noise. For well lit and daylight scenes Vlog might work for others. To me it just seems like a huge gimmick. Glad I didn't spend months anticipating it and arguing about it like I saw others do. Would have been a huge letdown.


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    Cine-D with the Leeming LUT all the way.
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    VlogL had no better range to me than CineD. I'll probably never use it since I dont have a 10-bit recorder.

    The only GREAT reviews I have ever read about VLogL, were from pro graders that say it matched other logs well, and thus was much easier to grade. Well, that makes sense.


    ...now, had they made a simmple S-Curve adjustment, like CINESTYLE, instead of slamming it all into the middle, that would be amazing for both dark details AND saved highlights.


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    Never liked Cinelike D. I'm having fun with V-Log L. Otherwise I prefer Cinelike V, or these days Natural.


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    Quote Originally Posted by stoneinapond View Post
    Never liked Cinelike D
    I felt the same way until the Cine-D LUTs started showing up, which fixed most of the issues I was having with Cine-D.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDingo View Post
    I felt the same way until the Cine-D LUTs started showing up, which fixed most of the issues I was having with Cine-D.
    Fair enough. But if I'm using LUTs I'd rather start with V-Log. For me, the other profiles need to be good to go with just a little exposure balancing, which they are.


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    Sometimes i like the 'D', but most of the time i stick to the Natural, dialed down a bit. It always depends on your needs. My needs typically call for something that needs only minor work in post to look sparkly.
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