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10-02-2015 03:55 PM
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10-02-2015 04:03 PM
But looking at the Jag fender, it's clearly clipping in the Cinelike D shot. If you clip, there's nothing to pull back. Plus, look at the shadows. Mine seems lighter and the V-Log seems darker.
Can I ask, for the sake of fairness, that you post the ISO and exposure info for comparative shots, so we know they have the same exposure? And that you expose to the right for Cinelike D, such that nothing is clipped using the Zebras at 105%? Because my feeling is, that fender shot, with nothing clipped, I could easily bring back the highlights below 90% IRE like V-Log L does, and get the same rolloff characteristics.
Thanks in advance! (Sent you beta 103 too by the way, which I think might just have fixed the problem with the greeens and some other colour clips you've been seeing).
Cheers from Berlin,
PaulPaul Leeming
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10-02-2015 04:12 PM
Just followed your PDF manual. Exposed highlights ETTR as you state. Concentrated in the specular highlight of the fender. Now, If I were to hold that fender, your shadows would crush like a bug under a boot. For CineD set zebra at 100% (instead of 105) and closed 1/3 stop. For VLOG, I set zebra to 80% and and closed down 1/3 stop.
Applied LUT's, lifted CineD shadow a touch and left the VLOG shots with just LUT only (No adjustments).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o_A7IDTcn8
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10-02-2015 04:22 PM
Paul Leeming
Writer/Director/Cinematographer/Actor
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10-02-2015 04:26 PM
Just so people know what's happening in the background, I'm iterating the LUT some more based on Dusty's feedback
Here's the release LUT (v1.00):
Uncompressed 4K PNG here: http://www.visceralpsyche.com/misc/w...T_One_v100.png
And here's v1.03 BETA of the LUT. Green levels altered, shadows lifted a touch and overall saturation increased to give an easier baseline for grading up or down saturation wise:
And as always, uncompressed 4K PNG to pixel peep and avoid any JPG artifacts: http://www.visceralpsyche.com/misc/w...e_v103beta.png
I'm not resting until we get it perfect!
Cheers,
PaulPaul Leeming
Writer/Director/Cinematographer/Actor
Visceral Psyche Films
www.visceralpsyche.com
www.LeemingLUTPro.com
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10-02-2015 04:34 PM
Another comparison.
CineD Leeming:
CineD.jpg
VLOG J. Miller
JM VLOG.jpg
Artifacts are nearly the same in the originals. I give the slight edge to CineD.
Take care of those greens by having less blue/green and more of a yellow/green and you have a good alternative to VLOG for using CineD for wide landscapes. Highlights go to VLOG though.
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10-02-2015 04:41 PM
Now keep in mind, that there is more room to play with the VLOG. Not to say that what you have done is null. You might want to make some different versions. Keep the version you have. But make a version with the greens shifted to the yellow spectrum so they aren't fluorescent. I've also shot CineD with your manuals recommendation. 0-255 range. Lets see it with 16-235. Lets play with the highlights/shadow adjustments.
It's an alternative to use with what you have done. Especially if one wants to avoid sky banding in 8bit. I'd say revise setting zebras at 105% and set them at 100% and maybe close down 1/3 stop.
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10-02-2015 04:42 PM
Hi Paul,
I'm curious why you suggest adding saturation (setting "0") on the Cinelike D profile, as opposed to -5.
Thanks!