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    And people, Like I said, this CineD Out does NOT simulate VLOG. It's just a CineD LUT. Your skies blue will look good. Your Green foliage will look like crap, and your skin looks decent. For Cine D that is.


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    Lemming LUT with whack greens:
    CINEd.jpg

    James Miller LUT (which seriously cleans up the magenta issue) with nice natural greens:
    JM LUT.jpg


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    Quote Originally Posted by dustylense View Post
    And people, Like I said, this CineD Out does NOT simulate VLOG. It's just a CineD LUT. Your skies blue will look good. Your Green foliage will look like crap, and your skin looks decent. For Cine D that is.
    Just to be clear, it's not meant to simulate V-Log It's meant to be a LUT that works with Cinelike D to get it right.

    Sent you a new BETA LUT to reduce greens and raise shadows a touch, to see what you think

    Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dustylense View Post
    Lemming LUT with whack greens:
    CINEd.jpg

    James Miller LUT (which seriously cleans up the magenta issue) with nice natural greens:
    JM LUT.jpg
    To my eyes, over-saturated green aside (new beta reduces this), my LUT looks better than the Neumann one.

    Skin tones are definitely way better (and to be honest, that's what I'm testing against as I'm a narrative filmmaker).

    The good thing is, all this feedback is going to make for the perfect LUT, so I truly do thank all of you for criticising

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    Oh and if Alberto Jimenez is reading this, please message me, as my email sending you your LUT bounced, as did my second attempt to email you without any attachment.

    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by visceralpsyche View Post
    Just to be clear, it's not meant to simulate V-Log It's meant to be a LUT that works with Cinelike D to get it right.

    Sent you a new BETA LUT to reduce greens and raise shadows a touch, to see what you think

    Cheers!

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    Looks the same with just lifted shadows.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dustylense View Post
    Lemming LUT with whack greens:
    CINEd.jpg

    James Miller LUT (which seriously cleans up the magenta issue) with nice natural greens:
    JM LUT.jpg
    @dustylense

    I am able to get good looking skin tones with the stock Cine D settings and Film Convert however it is not even close to VLog IMO.
    Since you have tried and tested most of the LUTS for VLog what is your recommendation? I use the ARRI Log C LUT in Final Cut Pro X and after some minor adjustments it looks fantastic on skin tones as well as the overall color rendition. Even with the shortcomings of VLog I am sold on it for skin tones add some Neat Video and done. So please tell me which LUT you recommend overall just for VLog.

    Thank you.

    Paul if this was available as a plugin for Final Cut Pro X I would buy it to support your efforts.
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    Example of highlight rolloff and DR.

    Notice the red circle around the fenders line in the highlights.

    Leeming: Line does not complete. whack greens.
    leeming.jpg

    VLOG with Neumann LUT (called "nothing Crazy). Line in car fender almost makes it. Far better shadows and greens are natural.
    VLOG Nuemann.jpg

    VLOG with J. Miller LUT. Line completes. Wonderfull highlight rolloff. Natural Greens.
    JM VLOG.jpg

    Leeming CineD vrs J.Miller VLOG Lut for skin. Notice the greens and the highlight rolloff of the palm of my hands (lets just say that a fortune teller would give me a false reading using the CineD).
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMV_OhGCiO0



    HIGHLIGHT DR AND ROLLOFF!!! NIGHT AND DAY! Look at fender of car.

    Leeming Cine D:
    Leeming HL.jpg

    VLOG with J. Miller LUT. Look at highlight separation of car fender. You're gonna state there is no increase in DR of VLOG vrs CineD, Mr. Leeming?
    JM HL.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Media Man View Post
    @dustylense

    I am able to get good looking skin tones with the stock Cine D settings and Film Convert however it is not even close to VLog IMO.
    Since you have tried and tested most of the LUTS for VLog what is your recommendation? I use the ARRI Log C LUT in Final Cut Pro X and after some minor adjustments it looks fantastic on skin tones as well as the overall color rendition. Even with the shortcomings of VLog I am sold on it for skin tones add some Neat Video and done. So please tell me which LUT you recommend overall just for VLog.

    Thank you.

    Paul if this was available as a plugin for Final Cut Pro X I would buy it to support your efforts.
    Try Luke Nuemanns Luts and James Millers LUTs. They both have LUTS that basically eliminate the Magenta Blocking for internal 8bit VLOG.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Media Man View Post
    Paul if this was available as a plugin for Final Cut Pro X I would buy it to support your efforts.
    Unfortunately I'm Windows based so I have no experience with Final Cut X sorry!
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