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    So there's no AF100 Successor - Now what?
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    I am so disappointed. I was, as many were, looking forward to an AF100 successor. I love what Blackmagic is offering. I am not so sure about making the jump to JVC. I have M4/3 lenses. I don't want to use the GH4 with interface adapter as a replacement and the DVX200 (although a great product) is not the replacement I was looking for.

    Is the competition just too tight now? What are you all doing? I know the AF100 is still a great camera and I'll keep using it as well. Just curious what you all are considering and why.

    Are you holding out a little while longer in hopes that a successor will be announced? Are you still believing in other posts on these boards that there was a 'reliable sources' that there will be an AF100 successor.

    I love Panasonic as a brand even beyond videography. I love their sensibility about technology in general and how they place their products amidst it's competitors. Though this situation eludes me. Somehow I can't help but feel like there's going to be a surprise in the near future; something unexpected. Maybe it's crazy.


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    I'm getting the URSA Mini. If you don't care about 4k or slo-mo, a $6,500 C300 also sounds pretty good.


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    It really is odd. On the one hand, many felt (I believe Barry too) that there would be no successor to the AF100, and this seemed validated in spades, as there never were even any credible rumors of an AF200, and Panasonic has so completely stopped after the AF100 that it really seems like they totally lost interest; on the other hand - this is a really bad omen all around for Panasonic, because it means serious videographers or people who simply want a videocam rather than DSLR solutions will turn away from all Panasonic m4/3 ancillary products... who is going to invest in m4/3 lenses when you will never have a videocam to use them on, only DSLRs? I mean, at this point, people could rightfully reach the conclusion that they'd rather throw their lot in with a company like Sony that at least seems dedicated to continuing development and therefore buying into the Sony lens system is not going to be wasted capital. So to me it seems like the consequences for Panasonic are not just the loss of any prospective camera sales, but a threat against their whole m4/3 mount system lenses and any other ancillary products. Because unless you are resigned to forever be stuck with only one DSLR line - the GH series for more serious video folks - what's the point of the m4/3 lens purchases... and who wants to limit themselves to only one series cameras that are not even dedicated video solutions? Just a very puzzling situation - it looks like Panasonic has given up the ghost in that whole department. Unless they have a surprise lurking somewhere to announce, but I kinda doubt it, as if they were going to do it, NAB would've been the natural place... and we don't even hear any credible rumors. Stick a fork in it - it's done. May be time to abandon ship for another company altogether... Sony? Canon? BM?


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    I had a chance to try out literally the first or second AF100 in the world back when they first came out. Never bought one as I went for the FS100 instead. I own a GH4 and several Blackmagic Studio cameras, with Panasonic 12-35 and 35-100 lenses. I just made the jump to the Canon C100 Mk II for my A camera. Still kept the M43 cameras and lenses for other applications (love the GH4 for personal stuff with the small lenses and body), but the C100 checks all the boxes for me. I am doing some work where I need solid low-light performance, and Panasonic and Blackmagic offerings weren't an option for that. Even if Panasonic were to make an AF200, it's just not possible to make an M43 sensor with the sensitivity and DR of an S35 sensor, at least in the near future. I debated between the FS7 and C100, and went with the C100 for the lower cost, smaller body and smaller file sizes (works better for the type of work I am doing).
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    Quote Originally Posted by tangierc View Post
    ... Is the competition just too tight now? .
    No, just the opposite.


    Quote Originally Posted by OldCorpse View Post
    It really is odd. ... Sony? Canon? BM?
    If you take it as a conjuncture with GH4 not having any competition after a year - May, 2014 - of entering and dominating the market, everything becomes far more reasonable. Just have to connect the dots.


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    Panasonic has abandoned the AF100, but JVC has picked up the MFT torch with the LS-300. It looks like a solid upgrade to the AF100, besting virtually all its specs and features, and lacking only a built-in waveform monitor.
    Some of LS-300's stand-out features:

    * Variable crop-factor adjustment, accommodating virtually all MFT-mountable lenses.
    * Active MFT mount, supporting OIS, remote control, and auto-focus on Panasonic and Olympus lenses.
    * 50Mbps 4:2:2 1080p recordings at up to 60p, 150Mbps 4:2:0 4K at 24p, 25p, 30p.
    * Continuous single-file 1080p and 4K recording on SDXC cards up to 4 hours duration. No 4GB spanning BS!
    * Redundant dual-card recording in both 4K and 1080p resolutions.
    * Numerically adjustable black level knee and gamma control. An exclusive feature no one else offers.
    * Live streaming from a built-in IP-addressible wifi transmitter, ideal for monitoring & remote control.

    The GH4 is a great mirrorless 4K camera, but its YAGH adapter falls short of making it a professional camcorder.
    The JVC LS-300 is clearly the best upgrade path for AF100 users, well worth the $4000.

    Zacuto promo:



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    I was very dissapointed as well. Walked around the corner at the Panny booth to see the DVX200 and almost barfed. Ordered an URSA Mini 4.6 with all the trimmings hours later. I've owned most Panny cameras since the VHS Supercam. Time to move on. I wish that wasn't the case, but here we are.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lpowell View Post
    The JVC LS-300 is clearly the best upgrade path for AF100 users, well worth the $4000.
    It's also arguably the "only" upgrade path for AF100 users. ; )

    I will almost certainly purchase a 4K cam in the coming months and what concerns me about the LS300 has nothing to do with the camera's feature set, which is quite remarkable. It's the purportedly lower DR of the sensor (10 to 11 stops?) and suspicious highlight clipping that is a bit disconcerting. These perceived (or actual?) shortcomings may prevent this camera from becoming a wildly popular production/cinema tool, particularly with new cams such as the high DR URSA mini breathing down its neck. Lpowell, do you share these concerns, or do you think the camera sensor's image will hold up?

    To me, the samples I've seen show some trouble in low light scenarios and strange macro blocking artifacts (YouTube compression?) at times as well. Don't get me wrong, I rather want to like this camera.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Firstbase View Post
    It's also arguably the "only" upgrade path for AF100 users. ; )

    I will almost certainly purchase a 4K cam in the coming months and what concerns me about the LS300 has nothing to do with the camera's feature set, which is quite remarkable. It's the purportedly lower DR of the sensor (10 to 11 stops?) and suspicious highlight clipping that is a bit disconcerting. These perceived (or actual?) shortcomings may prevent this camera from becoming a wildly popular production/cinema tool, particularly with new cams such as the high DR URSA mini breathing down its neck. Lpowell, do you share these concerns, or do you think the camera sensor's image will hold up?

    To me, the samples I've seen show some trouble in low light scenarios and strange macro blocking artifacts (YouTube compression?) at times as well. Don't get me wrong, I rather want to like this camera.
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    Spot on. Great cam on paper. But if the DR, highlight handling, and low light performance are subpar, this is a nonstarter. But man, would love it if this camera delivered, because on paper it's a beauty. Of course, I am somewhat apprehensive about the JVC brand, but I guess that's something I'd get over, if the camera was all that. It needs to get out into the wild, into users hands and get tested. I'll follow this with interest - it checks off all the boxes otherwise.


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    JVC LS-300 Menu System

    It's impressive how much control you have with this camera.


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