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    For discussion; nicely shot skin tones and discussion around how he obtained them.
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    http://www.supertone.dk/#!GH4-Optima...D-C575B9D5F4B6

    Looking forward to testing out these settings and tweaking as needed.


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    I didn't really care for the way that looked, but I respect that it's a subjective decision and it was achieved with thought and study.

    The skin tones seemed somewhat sallow and over-smoothed. I can think of potential situations where I might aim for that look, though (apocalyptica, depression-era tales, period war films).

    Thanks for the link


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    I'm with mc bob - not sure I like the white balance in this footage.
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    Quickly testing these settings myself, my initial impression is that I like them. I was worried it would be too contrasty, but it gives images a nice three dimensionality, and I find if I lift the shadows a bit the detail is still there and pretty clean. The skin tones aren't too pink and the saturation boosts nicely in post. I wouldn't go by the white balance in his footage, it might not have been set properly.
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    I put them in my GH4...
    I have the usual Cine-D settings (but without too much of the totally wound out -5 thing) I also have a Natural Setup as well (both in C1 and 2).
    I just put his in exactly like he described, and shot some footage comparing the skin tone tests against my other profiles.

    I have to say I was stunned at the difference, skins lost that pinkish orange look, the highlight falloff was way better and the contrast was a lot better, it really was a massive improvement...and I have owned the GH4
    for many months a done a slot of tests and shoots on it.
    I also shot a nice close up of a Les Paul guitar with a lot of shine on it from the window (knowing that...this kind of shot really stresses the highlights) the result? beautiful!! it really had a cinematic look to it because the
    falloff was nice and smooth even tho the light was very contrasty.
    All I can say is try it!!! YMMV ...but for me...this really is a big step forward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by astromann View Post
    I put them in my GH4...
    I have the usual Cine-D settings (but without too much of the totally wound out -5 thing) I also have a Natural Setup as well (both in C1 and 2).
    I just put his in exactly like he described, and shot some footage comparing the skin tone tests against my other profiles.

    I have to say I was stunned at the difference, skins lost that pinkish orange look, the highlight falloff was way better and the contrast was a lot better, it really was a massive improvement.
    Was screwing around some more and what was interesting to me was that if I lowered the contrast from his setting, the pink orange skin tones start to return. No wonder everyone is complaining about salmon/orange skin tones as they are all shooting at the recommended Cine D with contrast at -5. I am also still stunned by how clean the blacks are when you raise them up with these settings and how much detail is lurking in there. It seems counterintuitive, but I think it's better to get a flat look by shooting with these settings and flattening it in post than to shoot flat and increase the contrast later.
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    Are we still talking about the Portrait setting? I think his examples look great BTW!


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    Yep.
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    Very interesting settings. I've been using Natural before at around -1 for everything. In the video from that link, I like the color of the skin tones at 1:47 (kid eating the burrito). Everything else seems a little too white/pasty?
    I tried the settings and was fiddling around with it and I think I prefer it on Portrait +3, 0, 0, -2, -1.
    I didn't like it with +4 or +5 contrast. Changing the sharpness didn't really do too much so I just left it at 0, and then lowering the saturation down to -5 was just too white/dead-looking to me. I guess that can be changed with adding more saturation in post, but for out of the camera look, I think -2 was better.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CSFilms View Post
    Everything else seems a little too white/pasty?
    In its defense, I think this was shot in central Europe in the middle of winter....

    After taking some time to revisit this and fiddle around with those settings, I think the guy may be on to something. With a slightly warmer white balance, it takes on a rather nice look


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