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    The Mud 16mm Film Look
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    Hello,
    I tested my dvx100 with a anamorphic lens (lomo) to get 2.35:1 resolution. I just set the len in front of the camera and zoomed in till I don't see anything of the inner life of the lens ^^
    does sound silly, but works perfectly.

    The next step in archiving the "film-look" is to get a nice soft picture with a bit of grain in the background.
    I tried the suggested movie settings, but didn't get the coloring right yet.
    I want ot get as close as possible to this (see pictures)
    http://imageplay.net/img/tya22323143/1374667192.jpg

    The only problem is, that every time I do the white balance thing, the color is too yellow-brown or too blue.

    Does anybody have a scene file suggestion to get to this look?

    I really don't like computer coloring.

    How can get one this grainy background without damaging the objects in focus with unsharpness?
    Is it even possible with the camera? I didn't get there yet.




    Thank you


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    I'm not a DP, but barring film, you may want to: use different lenses, shoot all the way wide open, shoot at sundown, slight orange CTO filter.

    The first kid's face is way brighter than the reference. Shoot the faces at less exposure. The third one looks the closest, to me, but I doubt you're going to get the look the same. That 16mm image is soft, and barely sharp anywhere.


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    Was Mud seriously shot on 16mm? I saw it the other night and it looked gorgeous, never occurred to me that it might be a smaller format than 35mm.


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    Mud was shot 35mm anamorphic


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    Quote Originally Posted by samphibbs View Post
    Mud was shot 35mm anamorphic
    it says 35 mm (Kodak Vision3 50D 5203, Vision3 250D 5207, Vision3 500T 5219) on imdb.com


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    Quote Originally Posted by samphibbs View Post
    Mud was shot 35mm anamorphic
    Cheers, glad to know I'm not going crazy!


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    Has anyone actually shot something with such anamorphic filters AND the dvx?
    I get really good looking black and white images.
    But I have always trouble with the white balancing in color..with and without filter.
    I tested an old orange filter. But either the image is just too orange or the white balance kicks out the orange and the camera sets the image to 5600k (what just looks like without filter)..
    Is it possible to trick the filter with another colored card?
    I tricked it once with a blue card as a reference to get another look, but that just looks totally different.


    But, maybe I'll do it with the PC, but everything I can do with premiere looks artificial-


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefanus_maximus View Post
    it says 35 mm (Kodak Vision3 50D 5203, Vision3 250D 5207, Vision3 500T 5219) on imdb.com
    And it says anamorphic in the cinematographic process


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    Quote Originally Posted by samphibbs View Post
    And it says anamorphic in the cinematographic process
    ok................................but the question was how to get close to this look setting scene files and white balance.
    Actually - no offense- I don't care about what they did, because it is a different system: camera, lens, lightning, blablabla...

    That's what I can do so far:
    I have a 2.35:1 resolution without cutting the image. Done with an anamorphic lens.Looks FINE
    I have the scene files set to a movie kind of look, not extreme sharp, but looks FINE.
    I have set light on the objects to makae them appear more 3dimensional, looks FINE.
    I tested several filters to get a nice warm picture, got out and filmed before sunset...well...that looked to brown or to yellow or too orange...AND everything has the same coloring. That is the big problem. Everything looks like it was just overpainted with the same color. Maybe the white balance doesn't work right.


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    I did a screenshot with VLC-player.
    Thie footage is straight from tape.
    Captured it with premiere pro 2 in DV-PAL standard mode.
    All handheld.
    Everything is in original size with 2.39:1 aspect ratio; nothing was cut off.
    No HD-upres.
    (I don't know why the images have different sizes after I uploaded them).

    I descided to do some test shots with all AUTO SETTINGS in s*%tty sunlight...almost everywere white sky...
    This was shot with my "anamorphic lens makeshift arrangement".
    I used no filters and the auto-setting of the camera (even auto iris!) also the recommended scene file settings for film-like images.
    Don't bother about the cinematography, the pictures are still not good enough to show in a movie.
    For me, it's still pretty hard to get a really sharp picture...

    The first one is a distance shot, the tower was several miles away.

    vlcsnap-2013-09-26-13h15m45s34.jpg

    This one was filmed out of a moving car, so everything is unsharp.

    vlcsnap-2013-09-26-14h47m39s183.jpg

    The closest I can get with the anamorphic lens is about 5 feet, I guess.
    That's because it is a projector lens and I also have to zoom in 70% all the time, otherwise you would see the inner lens.

    vlcsnap-2013-09-26-12h58m47s146a.jpg

    I still have trouble with the iris settings.
    Especially with white sky.
    I have a cir.pol.filter, but using it makes the image look more artificial.
    And I'm still trying to get as close to the 16mm film-look, as I can.
    But the ND-filters in the camera won't do that well.
    With auto iris every now and then the image is too bright or too dark.

    All pictures where made without artificial light.
    Maybe I should really do more with lighting ?

    The trouble with this white sky really is a pain, because the image will always look like video.
    And because of that I won't need a anamorphic lens and just shoot like video...what I'm also doing, but I really want to get this film look to prove, that the dvx is still a good alternative to DSLR
    Last edited by Stefanus_maximus; 09-26-2013 at 07:26 AM.


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