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    You can't pull frames with any editor and then measure the pixel shift in gimp? I don't understand your process, so guessing here.


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    I can use Resolve and any photoshop clone that has a pixel-mesuring ruler tool. LR standalone (which is what I use for stills now) doesn't have that. Installing GIMP right now...

    edit: ok, it works, thanks a lot! the UI is not high-dpi friendly and every time I paste a frame I have to remember to "finish the paste" by turning it into a new layer, which I forget half the time, but free definitely beats $240/year
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    Added to the table:

    a7III 4k S35 25p -- 16.6 ms (16.6)
    RX100 VI 4k ------- 17.4 ms (17.4)
    GX9 4k 25p -------- 24.3 ms (24.0-24.7)
    Z7 4k FF ----------- 29.5 ms (30.0-29.0)
    X-H1 4k 24p ------- 30.9 ms (30.4-31.3)


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    Can we add the following:

    ZCAM E2: 4K DCI 25fps ZLOG = 11.1ms (from Cinema5D)
    ZCAM E2C: 4K DCI 25fps ZLOG = 36ms (from Cinema5D)
    ZCAM E2C: 4K DCI 29.98fps ZLOG = 31.3ms (from Cinema5D)
    Panasonic S1: UHD 4K 25p FF VLOG = 22ms (from Cinema5D)
    Panasonic S1: UHD 4K 25p APS-C VLOG = 10.4ms (from Cinema5D)
    Panasonic S1: 1080p 25p APS-C VLOG = 7.4ms (from Cinema5D)
    Panasonic S1H: 6K 3:2 23.98fps FF = 29.7ms (from Cinema5D)
    Panasonic S1H: 5.9K 16:9 23.98fps FF = 24.8ms (from Cinema5D)
    Panasonic S1H: 5.9K 16:9 29.98fps FF = 21ms (from Cinema5D)
    Panasonic S1H: 5.9K 16:9 25fps FF = 22ms (from Cinema5D)
    Panasonic S1H: 4K DCI 23.98fps FF = 24.2ms (from Cinema5D)
    Panasonic S1H: 4K DCI 23.98fps APS-C = 13.9ms (from Cinema5D)
    Panasonic S1H: 4K DCI 59.94ps APS-C = 13.9ms (from Cinema5D)
    Panasonic S1H: 4K DCI 25fps APS-C = 10.4ms (from Cinema5D)
    Olympus OMD EM1 MArk II: 4K DCI 23.98fps = 10ms (from Cinema5D)


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    That Olympus is impressive.

    And just a note, Affinity Photo is really nice and not very expensive. Been using it for a little while because it can process raw files from the Fuji cameras.


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    I'm not sure about the cinema5D numbers. Just one year ago their methodology was awful and their results very badly skewed: they said 9ms on the XT3 at 4k 25fps, where I measured >20ms. I consider my methodology to be good, not just because I put an adequate amount of thought into it, but also because when BM started posting official numbers here, they closely matched my measurements. More recently they may have switched to the flickering light methodology, which should be way more accurate than their old thing, and for example their p6k number closely matches the one BM posted here, so, I would be fine with those... but I need to see another proven success before I add here all the numbers that come from their new methodology.


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