Sony EX Cams vs NEX-EA50

[ex1r777]

Ex1r is mpeg2, ea50 is h.264 so yeah youre wrong.
i kinda doubt it wont be 4:2:2. But ok give me an example of a prosumer cam that does this and ill say its plausible

Wrong in what exactly? Stats are there. You are not implying that ea-50 will have better image in terms of video quality, comparing to the EX1R, are you?

Anyway. A user in the other thread was spot on:

I am sure that Sony will tell everybody in 2 years when they come with the second version with internal ND, how much they listen to us. For a little $ 4000 more. Always the same with those manufacturers, always forget one thing or another. In this case a vital feature for a camera that is definitely for eng run and gun style. I would like to see how many people will be able to fit some ND with the zoom lens unless they use a big matte box and rail system.

In the end i can only comment on one thing for sure: don't buy EX1R for low light shooting. Not in 2012. Get something with a bigger sensor. I forgot the original poster was going to use the camera for weddings so yeah; EA-50 will be the better choice for him.

Peace

[Donald Ong]

-EX1R has 35mbits internal recording with 3 cmos sensors. NEX-EA50 has only 1 sensor and records 28mbits max. Expect more video artifacts with the latter.
-NEX-EA50 has no sdi out. It has hdmi out but it is 4:2:0 (we don't know this yet but very low chance it will be 4:2:2). EX1R can do 4:2:2.
-EX1R has 2 card slots so you can swap them during recording. NEX-EA50 has only 1.
-In any run&gun situation it will be much easier to hold things in focus with the EX1R (which is NOT very easy unless you are open wide), comparing to the NEX-EA50, which is advertised as an ENG style camera (with APS-C sensor). Bear that in mind.
-NEX-EA50's lens extends out when you zoom. You will have a harder time with matte boxes.

And the more important thing, again: it has no built-in ND filters!! That thing is 4 times larger than a dslr, yet it doesn't have ND filters!! As if it wasn't enough that the lens extends out when you zoom, they expect you to attach some nd filters for outdoor shooting, so it will be EVEN LONGER lol

Just watch the first video on here: http://www.hdwarrior.co.uk/category/sony-nex-ea50/ .Look how huge that thing is. When you are outdoors, people may jump onto you thinking you are holding a RPG-7

Again, i'm not a pro. But even i wouldn't fall for this. I'd stay away from this camera if i were you. Get a dslr, make yourself a shoulder support and use it that way. It will be much better than this. Sony couldn't decide what they wanted to do with this product imho. It's 1 meter long, doesn't have nd filters but can shoot photos. It has a compartment on side for external recorders but no sdi out. It's advertised as an ENG style camera, but it has APS-C sensor and no real manual rings.

Noise, shallow dof, interchangeable lens, 1080p60fps. These are what this thing has over a ex1r. But dslrs can do those too. So why pay 3000$ more for this thing?

Edit:


I lost a bit of my objectiveness there, because i was thinking the way i shoot. NEX-EA50 will have place for some specific shooting scenarios and yes, weddings is one of them. It will suit you better in that aspect, comparing to an EX1R.

Oh come on.. It's not THAT big...its one of the smallest shouldermount cameras around, quite similar to the ex3 when you retract the shoulder plate. I'm sorry, but 1 metre long is a bloody exaggeration. It's only 42cm long, 14cm wide (which is basically identical to the EX3). Compared to the EX1 which is 30cm long. The difference is only 12cm, which really isn't that great. Which makes it very small for a shouldercam.. I'm quite sure people are smart enough to discern between a camera and an RPG. I've also seen people use much larger full-size shouldermounts like the PMW350 in public without getting attacked by a bunch of idiots thinking it's an RPG. I'm sorry, but that's quite hilarious ;) Oh, lets not forget the EA50 is only 1.72kg, its light enough that you can use it handheld and cradle it between your arm, which essentially hides the bulk of the camera under your armpits and allows for very discreet shooting...granted, not the most ergonomic way of shooting, but it can be done.

Yes, it has 1 card slot, but it takes the sony 128gb FMC, i'm not sure if the EX1 does, but if i remember correctly, it does not. Also, stop the lens down to f11 and you won't have a hard time keeping focus as long as you stay roughly the same distance from the subject. Yeah, no ND is a bummer, but you could just use regular screw-ons or a mattebox and some 4x4s. And i mean, people really exaggerate the whole shutter speed thing and blow it way out of proportions. Seriously, shooting above 1/60 ISN'T the end of the world. If you're doing events/ENG, the reduced motion blur is actually a good thing. And if you're doing narratives, you can afford the time to play with a mattebox and filters. Maybe its just me, but i really don't find the look of high shutter speeds to be much of a problem unless you're shooting at night, in which case you may run into storbing with artifical lighting, but in low light, you woundn't be using a filter any way, would you? Stillmotion shoots alot of their DSLR stuff without filters at 1/250 or higher and the footage still looks amazing with barely any harsh jittering.

Yes, it definitely isn't a full-on ENG camera (I'd take the EX1 over this any day for ENG), rather, the EA50 is more suited for events/narrative. So, is the EA50 perfect? No. Is it better than the EX1? in some instance, yes. In others, no. Would i take it over a DSLR? Yes, any day of the month.