I am but a humble writer/director who knows there is strength in numbers, and a lot of talent in this forum. This is a film I will be shooting in Late October of this year. A little background on me, my last short film in the midst of having a successful festival run. We just screened at the San Diego Comic-Con Int'l Film Festival last month.
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But what's important is the project I'll be shooting now!
Could really use feedback on what works and what doesn't work. This is a great chance to give feedback to a script that will definitely be shot! A couple of disclaimers - I'm a graduate student filmmaker and this is my thesis film (please if you can leave out your thoughts on film school - that tends to cloud the discussion). Also, any advice given may be taken and incorporated in the script, and by adding it here in this forum you are giving me 100% permission to use it in this script without any request for monetary compensation now or in the future. In short, any pointers given on this script in this forum are free for me to use without any consideration for financial compensation, in perpetuity. Word.
Now that we've gotten that silly detail out the way, HELP!!! Please?
This is my fourth draft of the script, would love to hear your opinions. How could this be made stronger? What are your thoughts? What worked? What didn't? Did you feel resolved at the end? Was it worth your time?
The Magician's Pen 4.1.pdf
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08-14-2012 12:27 AM
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08-14-2012 01:45 AM
Should be able to take a look in the next day or two. Get back to you when I've read it.
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08-14-2012 04:52 AM
It is a worthy short, a take on the magical drawing pen (There was a short on network TV a few years back where a comic book artist did something like this, drew a hot character that came to life, it all backfired on the artist, etc). I think it will be fun to film. One thing-- at the end, I half expected Gina to not be Gina but instead be Martha, the 13 year old who rejected the hero, now six years older, looking different, and who now connects with the hero; would provide a nice bookend, and closure to a goal of the hero wanting Martha. Perhaps some overuse of the "tick-tock ..." in the script, I found it a bit distracting. A couple of 'we see...' usages that are unnecessary and again distracting, but that is a minor thing as you will be filming it.
imho, well done. The script kept me reading, kept me turning pages, and that is doing better than what 95% of scripts do.
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08-14-2012 10:39 AM
Thanks!
Thanks! Appreciate the feedback. Yea, it's interesting to hear there's another story with that similar of an angle, I'll have to look for that. The note about Gina is something I've been thinking about a lot. My producer also suggested that it should be Martha in the end, and I think it's a good suggestion. I'm just having problems with the serendipity of that. The writer in me tells me that the story is about him overcoming his fears, and that we don't necessarily need to reach back deep in to his past to do it. BUT, the audience member in me feels like you, wanting him to have one more chance with Martha, and the symmetry a moment like that provides could work. I'm not sure if I have the skill to pull that scene off without it seeming contrived, going to think on it though. Glad it kept you reading, that's always an important point for me. Thanks again for reading.
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08-14-2012 11:53 AM
It is a story/plot device used many times, no harm retelling it with a new twist as you are doing. Goes back all the way I believe to the ancient Greek story of Pygmalion about a sculptor who brought his work to life. The short story I saw about a graphic artist bringing a drawing to life was part of some hour long TV miniseries (3 shorts in the hour long episode) that was short lived, the episode had a remote cabin, I think the artist was a female, brought a male drawing to life, but it could have been the reverse; I can not recall the title of the TV series only that it was on network TV because I have not had cable TV for over a decade.
Consider the recent hit film The Sorcerer's Apprentice-- same method of bookends, awkward tweens meet, part, then later when they are older meet again and fall in love. It works. 13 Going on 30, same thing. Use it, it works, audiences love it. But it is your story so do what you feel is best. If you use it, you could have Martha at 19 go by the name Marti, so your hero does not figure out right away that she is Martha all grown up and more attractive; come up with some identifying action or quirk Martha does at 13 that she does at 19 so your hero suddenly figures out who 19 year old Marti is. I see his goal as wanting Martha, he does not get her at 13, but he can resolve and obtain that goal at the end of the story when he realizes he no longer needs magic outside of himself.Last edited by Randall_Oelerich; 08-14-2012 at 12:01 PM.
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08-14-2012 05:12 PM
Here it is, from ten years ago actually, how time zips by!
http://www.best-horror-movies.com/ma...s-drawing.html
It is also on youtube:
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08-17-2012 10:28 AM
Sorry, just got round to reading it.
To start, get rid of the tick-tocks. Every one. They are annoying and add nothing.
It reads a little too much like an internal monologue. This should be an instruction set for the actors, not prose. It must flow easily for the reader (the actor) but does not need to have a 'voice', only actions and dialogue will be visible to the viewer. You could reduce this by at least 2 pages just by writing more efficiently. So you need to show more actions, describe less thoughts. You also need to think out some of these scenes a little better.
The whole school sequence could be cut. It serves no purpose other than to establish his asthma and ineptness with women. Start in the library, have him splutter and go for the inhaler there. The fact he is a comic writer and is made nervous by the girl in the elevator does a far more succint job of establishing these things. And you can reduce your cast by at least three, locations by two and saves me explaining a number of issues with the school scenes. It is your weakest section, rambles and has some logical flaws.
The whole library scene until he drives off in the carpark works very well. Unlike much of the script it reads like a script. Succint, action orientated and the dialogue is good. This is your best section of writing. Only issues are in the last couple of lines. Don't use embarrassed, we know he's embarrassed because he looks away and drops his phone. Maybe he could quickly look away for emphasis. Phillip's car doesn't drive off. Phillip drives off.
Uncle Mort's House. Apostrophe police: lets himself in. Phillip goes up a staircase, this is a chance to build some apprehension. -> Phillip pauses at the base of the stairs before ascending. Implies he hasn't often been up there which turns it into crossing a threshold. Then rather than Phillip walks into an office space -> 'Phillip explores Mort's office.' This isn't an office. It's in Mort's house, ergo it's his office. When he grabs the coat, if you make a point of it being a bad fit it will heighten the sense he doesn't belong in there.
Smoking on screen isn't so much the done thing anymore but more importantly, it is a key plot point that he is ASTHMATIC. He is already playing make believe, have him pretend to smoke it unlit. We won't call her Delilah, she is DELILAH or she is GORGEOUS YOUNG WOMAN. Pick one. Rather than INT. OFFICE - LATER just insert the word 'LATER:' into the one scene. Similar for INT. HALLWAY - LATER -> INT. HALLWAY - DAY. We know it's later, it happened after earlier.
INT. BACKYARD - LATER...you know. The doorway in the backyard is a bit naff. Simply have them appear at the new scene as soon as he puts the pen down. A clever cut or a close up followed by a pull back reveal will be far more powerful. But don't include camera directions in the script. Even if you do use a door, why would there be a blinding light? They are going from a DAY scene to a DAY scene. Same with the move to the beach. Argh more tick-tock...begone!
Slightly defeated, Phillip jumps back into photographer mode, what does that look like? -> He slumps his shoulders before lifting the camera. Whatever makes Delilah happy..., superfluous line, we can't read his mind. Snap! Snap! Snap! ...or... He takes more photos.
If it's Jenga call it Jenga. Don't waste three lines describing it. Rather than have her turn her attention to the bag have her watch him leave. Phillip opens a suitcase on the bed and packs some of Mort's clothes. Delilah checks the door (or stairs if in view of living room). She scurries over to the bag and opens it. Phillip closes the suitcase and sets it next to the door. He shakes his head, that won't work. -> He shakes his head. Delilah searches through the bag. She finds the magic pen, smiles and holds it up with a flourish. Get rid of the line That won't work either., that's more internal monologue and has already been implied in the dialogue.
Try:
INT. MORT'S BEDROOM - NIGHT
Phillip looks at himself one more time, steels himself and leaves the room.
INT. LIVING ROOM - NIGHT
Phillip comes down the stairs to find Delilah gone. On the table he spots the magic pen, the picture of Mongol beneath it.
He searches the house, hall, kitchen, bathroom.
EXT. BACKYARD - NIGHT
Phillip finds them in the same spot...(continue with your description)
GASP. GASP. GASP. - No. "pee his pants look" - No.
Try:
He falls to his knees, fumbling for his inhaler. He collapses, inhaling. Mongol stands over him as he lies prostrate. Phillip looks up at him weakly. Mongol considers him before extending a hand to help him up. Phillip reluctantly takes it.
The rest of it could use some tightening up but generally okay. Just a couple of points. First of all Tick-tock... Second, instead of YOUNG LADY, call her GINA from the get go. This is for the actor not the audience. The actor isn't playing YOUNG LADY, she's playing GINA even if the audience only find out her name at the end. And Phillip doesn't need a second name, it's never used. And last point, make the Doughnut shop a day setting rather than early morning if both have had time to do some work already. And maybe a coffee shop since they are grown ups.
The suggested alterations are offered as examples, reading back they're not perfect but hopefully illuminate the principles you need to apply to get to the next level with your writing. Scriptwriting is not prose. Remember that the actors are your audience, not the audience. Keep that in mind and you should be able to improve this and future scripts. I reckon you could easily get this script down to 10-12 pages without cutting any scenes. Lean and mean, good flow visually on the page (short descriptive paragraphs) and leave enough room for actor interpretation of the roles, otherwise it's a puppet show. Hopefully this has been helpful. Happy writing.Last edited by Egg Born Son; 08-17-2012 at 10:35 AM.
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08-17-2012 11:25 AM
There's also "Cool World"(1992)
Here's a shot:
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08-27-2012 09:41 PM
Thanks for sending this, took a look at it. Interesting to see how they went about the conceit. They get a little leeway because of it being the Twighlight Zone.....
Yea I generally reference Pygmalion myth when I talk about this project to people!




Shooting this script soon...read it...maybe?


