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    It's been mentioned already, but a Tokina and a steadicam is key. I actually own a business revolving around video tours of homes. I was recently flown out to Mexico to shoot a tour of a medical facility. Depending where you live, it can be GREAT business.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dop16mm View Post
    I can't believe that agents still prefer the old quicktime VR 360 panoramas to a well produced walkthrough with music. It is so 1995. The whole point was that it didn't require much bandwidth, but it was always an archaic experience to the viewer and horribly distorted. With ubiquitous YouTube access, even on phones, I would think that a straight up walk through video/slide show would be the preferred method now.
    Yes the old 1995 QT VR did suck.
    These are not your fathers panoramas.
    Most of the panorama work I do is for larger entities.
    http://izonemedia.com/360.html
    http://wwww.izonemedia.com/PANO_DEMO...ANO/zeiss.html

    Most real estate agents are cheap and most of them
    take their own photos.

    But one of my biggest clients now prefer these types of shows.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLLqqc01mw0&feature=plcp


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    Quote Originally Posted by HVXguy View Post
    Yes the old 1995 QT VR did suck.
    These are not your fathers panoramas.
    Most of the panorama work I do is for larger entities.
    http://izonemedia.com/360.html
    http://wwww.izonemedia.com/PANO_DEMO...ANO/zeiss.html

    Most real estate agents are cheap and most of them
    take their own photos.

    But one of my biggest clients now prefer these types of shows.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLLqqc01mw0&feature=plcp
    Real estate agents are definite penny pinchers. The best success is to contact home builders. They build a home and market it. What's the best way besides a video tour? This is where my success lies.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Morox View Post
    Real estate agents are definite penny pinchers. The best success is to contact home builders. They build a home and market it. What's the best way besides a video tour? This is where my success lies.
    Yes, I do a lot of work for apartment complex's. The marketing in that industry is fierce.
    We usually do photos, videos and 360 tours....


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    Quote Originally Posted by HVXguy View Post
    Here is my workflow:

    I use Photo Matrix Pro
    http://www.hdrsoft.com/
    or HDR Efex Pro 2
    http://www.niksoftware.com/hdrefexpr...o%2Fmain.shtml
    to process the HDR….

    With my 7 processed photos (we don't use the down shot yet)
    I use PT Gui to stitch the photos into a panorama.
    http://www.ptgui.com/

    Now with my HDR Panorama I use Pano2VR
    http://gardengnomesoftware.com/pano2vr.php
    to extract the bottom cube and then use Photoshop to
    blend that and my bottom photo I shot.
    Yes this is hard and very painstaking……

    Then with the Panorama complete I use Pano2vr again to make 6 cube faces.

    I then turn to Flash Panorama Player to create the web tour.
    http://flashpanoramas.com/player/

    However - I use XML programming to create custom tours….

    krpano Panorama Viewer
    http://krpano.com/
    is another panorama player you can look at.
    Okay, So I am wondering about the software, if this is all correct.

    For HDR, I will try to see if I can get HDR Efex Pro 2.
    Then to stitch the HDR images, I will should use
    PT Gui.

    I don't need to extract the bottom of the panorama. I wont shoot vertically down. only up. So there will be a small spot you wont see. Which is fine.

    So, after I stitch the photos using PT Gui, I need to create a video?

    To create the web tour, I should use one of these?:
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    Pano2VR
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    Flash Panorama Player
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    krpano Panorama Viewer

    Looking at the descriptions of them, they all seem to do the same thing. Make a video of the panorama picture.
    Which would be the best to use then?

    So, after i created the video (probably a flash?), now how do I put it up on the website as a virtual tour?
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    You can create cube faces in PT Gui go to TOOLS/Convert to QTVR /Cubic

    You can only create a one pano web page using PT Gui using TOOLS/Publish to Website - but their method is heavy on memory usage
    and only having the ability to show one pano - is pretty much useless.

    Here is a comparision -
    This is one pano using PT Gui - Publish to Website
    http://izonemedia.com/ptgui_test/CLUB_ROOM_FINAL.htm

    Here I am using Flash Panorama Player and XML programming.
    I am working on an iPad/IPhone version of this tour now.
    http://izonemedia.com/PANO_DEMO/THE_..._PANO/ebv.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by HVXguy View Post
    Here I am using Flash Panorama Player and XML programming.
    I am working on an iPad/IPhone version of this tour now.
    http://izonemedia.com/PANO_DEMO/THE_..._PANO/ebv.html
    Yeah, thats basically what I want. So, I should use the Flash Panorama Player to make it a flash video.
    So, say I am the realtor and I want to upload this virtual tour panorama onto my website. How do I do that upload it? Do I need to access the websites codes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dop16mm View Post
    I can't believe that agents still prefer the old quicktime VR 360 panoramas to a well produced walkthrough with music. It is so 1995. The whole point was that it didn't require much bandwidth, but it was always an archaic experience to the viewer and horribly distorted. With ubiquitous YouTube access, even on phones, I would think that a straight up walk through video/slide show would be the preferred method now.
    This is precisely what I am doing for my job.



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    Quote Originally Posted by austinmartifilms View Post
    This is precisely what I am doing for my job.

    I must say, that is a LOT simpler than the virtual tour panorama stuff. However, MAYBE its just this video - I havent even seen other videos yet, but for me, I got lost a few times. I was confused about the location, and it didnt really show most of the room at times.
    The jump cuts to fast forward movement was okay at times, but sometimes it confused me.

    Is that how all walk through videos would be done?

    I have not done the virtual tour for the realtor. Because of last minute planning, he nor I wanted to go with this. Especially since it would be super rushed and my first time at it. Id rather practice on my own house, get it right, then start doing them.
    But, Id rather do a walk through, IF it can be done very well.
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