Just got a new camera - Sony F35

[macgregor]

The title of the clip is "F35"....so, I guess it's a Sony F35!
(maybe?)

And Zaza is the winner... XD

[Samuel H]

wow, you got a big boy! congrats!

[morgan_moore]

Without being rude - what did it cost

I have seen them around the price of a R1 and 1/4 of an alexa

What rationalle made you choose this over the 'current' S35 cams?

S

[Dubdom]

Without being rude - what did it cost

I have seen them around the price of a R1 and 1/4 of an alexa

What rationalle made you choose this over the 'current' S35 cams?

S

Surely 4:4:4 colour space and no beyer pattern on the sensor - at a guess. It is a very highly thought off ,very sharp . That and a CCD imager with the lack of rolling shutter. The only thing you might lose out on really seems to be lower light sensitivity. That and more expensive ancillaries (v locks, 19mm rods etc..)
Quite a good idea over getting a new F3 or C300.

[macgregor]

Without being rude - what did it cost

I have seen them around the price of a R1 and 1/4 of an alexa

What rationalle made you choose this over the 'current' S35 cams?

S

I paid about the price of a F3 or C300.
Reasons?Colorimetry, dynamic range, resolution... well you just can't compare those to the existing 35mm sensor prosumer cameras line.

The F35 inherits all the work Panavision developed with the Genesis. I was always in love with this camera when it was launched 3 years ago and now that rental companies (the only ones who could afford them) are getting rid of them I though, heck, I'll get one even if I only use it to shoot home videos.

To me, the F35 delivers the best film look of all current cameras. Yep, above Alexa and F65. And I´m not saying it's the best. I´m just saying it produces the best looking footage. The alexa might have more DR, the F65 might produce cleaner footage but to me they don't look as good as the Genesis/F35. Of course this is subjetive to everyone. But I could support my pov with 2 facts.
The Red One or the Alexa for example have tons of Dynamic range, but it's mostly allocated in the shadows. To the point of having something like 7 stops of shadows and just 3 and a half stops in the highlights. Film doesn't work like that. Film shows way more dynamic range above mid gray. The F35, up to a point works in that way, delivering more detail in the highlights than in the shadows (I think it´s the only camera to do this actually, about 6 stops of highlights and about 5 stops of shadows). So this produces footage that resembles how film stock portrays reality. And I like that.
Also the tone curve is very pleasent and doesn't scream digital as many other cameras do. Skintones looks just right and not plastic (ie: Red).

You could say, hey but the F3 shoots in Slog! Isn't that the same then? Meeeh, nice try, but the short answer is not. I've shot a lot with the F3 and while it produces very clean images, it doesn't look very filmic where the F35 does. Not the same colorimetry. After all, Sony use to sell the F35 for like $180K for a reason I guess...

The 2nd reason why I decided to go with this camera (besides the drop in price) is that we no longer need to carry a heavy HDCAM SR with it. Today, an inexpensive Hyperdeck shuttle will record beautifull 10bit 422 DNxHD files, ready to edit in real time (premiere, vegas, AE, Scratch...), easy to grade and really fast to copy. Perfect workflow.

[morgan_moore]

Very interesting - especially the cheap recording option!

[cpc]

The Red One or the Alexa for example have tons of Dynamic range, but it's mostly allocated in the shadows. To the point of having something like 7 stops of shadows and just 3 and a half stops in the highlights. Film doesn't work like that. Film shows way more dynamic range above mid gray.

Erm, you do understand that with a 14 stops of nearly uniformly distributed dynamic range as in Arri Log-C you can put mid-gray whereever you like, right?
In fact, it defaults to 7.5 stops above midgray and 6.5 stops below midgray at base ISO 800 with standard exposure.

(And grats on the new camera! )

[macgregor]

Alexa looks plasticy. And while you can set mid grey where you want it easily, it is no that easy to cut the dr in the shadows to a given amount.

[Grug]

Very interesting decision Miguel. Having seen the prices F35s are going for these days I've had quite similar thoughts - F35 with a 4:2:2 ProRes/DNxHD recorder would be fantastic. How managable is the camera (size/weight-wise) for small crews in your opinion? I know the old recorders made it a huge beast.

[ZazaCast]

And Zaza is the winner... XD

Oh how I've waited to hear those words!

I hope this is the camera you're using for your WarFest entry. Looking forward to that.