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    Can FX-1 Achieve Filmlook of DVX100a?
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    I've been reading all of the information about the FX-1 and Z1. Can't affford the Z1.
    Given the audio work-arounds needed for the FX1...Lets talk picture

    The Fx1 has been said to have 2 stops less sensitivity. You can gain up. The picture is said to have the "window" look and is very "video" looking. Not much difference when down-rezzing to SD (?).

    With proper filtering- say a 1/2 Black promist, and some good lighting, AND posting to FCP 4.0 (all I have) with Lumiere, AND converting 24p....

    Can a person get a decent filmic-looking video of superior resolution and quality?

    What say the owners or users?
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    Yes, in a way.... Stick the footage through my Standards Converter to convert to 24p (or put it though Film Effects to make it look like 24p in a 29.97fps timeline) and that will get you close to the DVX24p look. Next apply one of my custom gamma curve plugins from Film Effects, and that will instantly rid you of the flat video look. I'd also be tempted to try and Ultra Contrast instead of a pro-mist too. I find they work great with such post gamma adjustments.

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    Jeese Graem-
    you were getting my business either way!

    Jeff


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    Thanks. I've got a new little plugin called "G Simple S-Gamma" that I'll be shipping with Film Effects 2.5. It's an amazing little plugin that uses a mathematically beautiful gamma cuve that I developped that just does amazing things to video. I can just about put it on any video clip I have and it works it's magic. I hope to be posting images on my web site showing what it does soon, but I've got to get the new Film Effects finished first. (This is all a free upgrade too).

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    I find that using cinegamma in the FX-1 and boosting the color gain all the way up to +7 goes a long way towards getting a rich film look. Then just add the nattress standards conversion. This is what I did and the footage looks beautiful, no need to give it a gamma curve.


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    The show we're lensing with Z1Us is not using either the cineframe or cinegamma settings - apparently they're very tatty looking. If I can make the time, I'll shoot some footage later this week with both activated.

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    The CF24 is pretty poor. You'll get nicer results in post for sure. I've not played with the cinegamma, but I always find it best to shoot flat as possible, keep highlights under control, keep detail in the shadows, then post process with whatever gamma curve takes your fancy.

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    Graeme,

    How much resolution do you lose converting to 24p?


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    None horizontally, not much vertically if you set the de-interlacing to "smart", and then only in moving areas which will be soft anyway due to motion blur.

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    Excellent! Thanks for the quick response. I was worried I might lose 50% like some other ways but glad to know I won't! all the best...


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