New HD100 brochure

[Michael_Bott]

JVC lays its cards on the table ...

http://pro.jvc.com/prof/Attributes/c...&feature_id=12

[David Jimerson]

THIS is an interesting passage:

"Unlike ordinary SD 24p images, real 24p HD video down
converted to SD produces film-quality DVDs."

That's quite a claim in a 4:2:0 colorspace.

I may be wrong on this, but early on, wasn't it discussed that the HD100's method of obtaining 24p was by combining two 48p frames?

[Shaw]

That is quite the claim... very bold...

I believe the method that used 48 -> 24 was their motion smoothing filter which can be turned on or off.

[thisiswells]

"Unlike ordinary SD 24p images, real 24p HD video down
converted to SD produces film-quality DVDs."

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If you have Japanese typeface installed, the above says baloney.

[Barry_Green]

Shaw is correct, the 48fps->24fps thing was the motion smoothing filter, which they clearly say can be enabled or disabled.

[Neil Rowe]

"FILM-QUALITY" ???? uh, ....yes and my shoes are "earth -quality" what quality does film have? it entirely depends on what quality the film is . im not saying that the JVC's HD 24p will be poor quality by any means, but i cant stand it when companies use ambiguos sales language like .. " these wipre blades are really race quality" .. i mean , what on earth is "race quality".. if your in the indy 500 its one thing.. if your in the local soap box derby its another. they use terms like that to strongly imply one thing that they useually cannot deliver.. in the case of the JVC cam here.. i hope it DOES make dvds that look like film.. i would largely believe it can.. but only in the hands of a good operator and cinematographer with proper lighting ect (no different than dvx or xl2 or most other vid cam in the range really)... i just hate how they imply that your DVD's will look like film just cause you shooting in their 24p HD mode.

[David Jimerson]

Barry, can I assume that in your inevitable battery of tests, you will consider that claim above?

[Neil Rowe]

i thought it was interesting that it says it will also offer 2 16 bit 48k stereo tracks, and is scheduled to later have solid state media available as well as 1080i reocrding to HDD (or possibly other media) .. these are certainly big positives for the camera, and hoist it up a few notchces on the scale if al goes well with the implamentation .

[Barry_Green]

Barry, can I assume that in your inevitable battery of tests, you will consider that claim above?

Well, the claim can only really be settled in the eye of the beholder. I'll shoot some film next to some ProHD, and let the viewer decide which is which and which they prefer, and whether post-tweaking gets them where they're trying to go (basically the same thing I did on the DVX DVD).

[Barry_Green]

i thought it was interesting that it says it will also offer 2 16 bit 48k stereo tracks, and is scheduled to later have solid state media available as well as 1080i reocrding to HDD (or possibly other media) .. these are certainly big positives for the camera, and hoist it up a few notchces on the scale if al goes well with the implamentation .

Ah, but you misunderstand -- none of that is applicable to this camera. Those are extensions that would be offered under ProHD XE, likely in the forthcoming $27,000 2/3" camera next year. The current HD100 can only record one stereo pair, and that one is only recorded in MPEG-1 Layer II compression. No solid state media, no 1080i recording of any type. Those are features that may be explored on other cameras, but not on this one.

That brochure wasn't just about the HD100, it was about JVC's plans for ProHD across the line, including ProHD XE. Those future plans won't be implemented in the current cam.