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    David,

    Did you get a chance to test the clips with the Calibrated MXF importer demo?


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    No I didn't Brian, because buying a license to convert the footage loses the cost effectiveness to me.

    The best solution is for BM to address these issues with the non standard mxf, or to facilitate a direct pro res option as well.

    At least that's what I would prefer.
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    My Hyperdeck Shuttle 2 arrived yesterday and I updated the firmware to the latest 2.0 version that came out 2 days ago, not the beta version. I recorded a few second clip and will be doing tests all day to try to either rewrap the DNxHD.MXF file to a DNxHD.MOV file or transcode to ProRes 422 (HQ). I will update this post with the programs I've tried and whether or not they worked. If anyone has any ideas on what software to test with, let me know.

    Aunsoft TransMXF demo = no
    Foxreal MXF Converter demo = no
    Calibrated MXF importer demo =
    YES! (In the demo you get the top half of the screen only. Documentation says support for the DNxND files created by the Hyperdeck Shuttle 2 is beta. The video and audio files are not joined. Single user cost $250)
    iMedia Converter demo = no
    Media Converter = no (Tried several different setups and setting variations with no luck)
    FLV Crunch = no
    Brorsoft MXF Converter demo = no
    ffmpegX = no
    MPEG Streamclip = no
    HandBrake = no
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    Actually DNxHD is not bad in itself, nor "MXF" Wrappers, given the fact that UK broadcasters agree now on MXF-based direct file-based programme delivery from producer to broadcaster. Our problem is to get a WRAPPER with wide compatibily with the most copmmon NLEs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danap View Post
    Actually DNxHD is not bad in itself, nor "MXF" Wrappers, given the fact that UK broadcasters agree now on MXF-based direct file-based programme delivery from producer to broadcaster. Our problem is to get a WRAPPER with wide compatibily with the most copmmon NLEs.

    http://www.digitalproductionpartners...tml#commontape
    I agree, but it'll take time to implement. I'm looking for a solution to rewrap or transcode so I can use my Hyperdeck Shuttle 2 now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by David Saraceno View Post
    No I didn't Brian, because buying a license to convert the footage loses the cost effectiveness to me.
    As opposed to not being able to use the footage? How is that cost effective?
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    Quote Originally Posted by arniepix View Post
    As opposed to not being able to use the footage? How is that cost effective?
    It doesn't make sense to me to buy the Shuttle at $345.00, add a SSD at $150+, and then buy a license at Calibrated $200.00 to acquire footage that I can't preview, or use until I spend the time to convert the footage. That's conservatively about $700.00. More for a larger SSD, and then there is the time for conversion, no opportunity to preview, etc.

    That isn't a good DTE system for me.

    Time is money, and it appears that the acquisition codec presents issues for those not using Avid system, et al.

    That is how it is not cost effective to ME.

    Provide a pro res codec, and the changes the equation.
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    Two things:
    First, the Shuttle can also record uncompressed in .mov format. Boom, you're done.
    Second, the next cheapest DTE solution will probably cost two or three times the $700 that the Shuttle will cost you.
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    Both Samurai and Ninja are less expensive.

    And there are those of us who don't work in uncompressed given its huge data rates, high cost of SSDs, and the need to transcode.

    Again not very cost or time effective for me.
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    How are the Samurai and Ninja less expensive? they are both more expensive and if you are talking about the "time is money" factor, you could transcode or rewrap at night while you sleep. I've been doing that for years when it came to P2 or RED; whats the difference? I agree that it's not ideal, but it's a workflow many of us are used to.


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