HVR-Z1U Sony America press release!

[PappasArts]

Here is the Sony usa press release on the HVR-Z1U


http://news.sel.sony.com/pressrelease/5327

http://news.sel.sony.com/pressrelease/5331

[mickeloaf]

Anything here that hasn't already been known?

[Barry_Green]

Mainly that someone would be silly to buy the FX1, now that we know what all the Z1 does. The audio features alone would be worth the price difference (to me, at least). The price difference is $1200, the Z1 has an MSRP of $4900.

[David Jimerson]

Nicely placed to undercut XL2 sales.

[monster]

[quote author=Barry_Green link=board=sony;num=1100107659;start=0#2 date=11/10/04 at 10:10:34]Mainly that someone would be silly to buy the FX1, now that we know what all the Z1 does. *The audio features alone would be worth the price difference (to me, at least). *The price difference is $1200, the Z1 has an MSRP of $4900.[/quote]


Barry, does this part of the release satisfy your doubts about the true 24p or is this still gonna be faux 24p?

"The HVR-Z1 is unique in its ability to record HDV and DVCAM™ images at 60i, 50i, 30, 25 or 24 frames per second—in either SD or HD. "

[Neil Rowe]

...the minute i read the shadily written release i knew that it would flare up the 24p issue again.

it is NOT real 24P. it records 24 frames per second, but that doesnt mean its 24p. i could take 1 field *every 1/120th of a sec, and just interpolate and use the first 24 and throw out the rest , and record the first 24 interpolated frames to tape over 1 sec and say "look.. its 24fps." *that does not mean the sampling was either progressive or 24fps .. it was sampled at 120 fps, and interlaced. *and converted to 24fps. * the sony samples at 60i and then converts to 24fps using fancy deninterlacing. but the motion redition, and resolution are obviosly not going to be the same as true 24p. *... the horse is dead. * to be very clear on the issue *since sony has irritated me into a foamy mouthed frenzy:

if the camera could do *30p, 25p, or 24p, they would say simply and proudly say it does 30p, 25p, and 24p instead of making up a name like "cineframe technology" to describe their 60i or 50i to 24fps or 25fps conversion process.


if this release had said that the camera did NOT have cineframe , and that it did 24 and 25 fps.. id be inclined to look into it further thinking that they by chance might have actually given it real 24/25p *but seeing as it incorperates the cineframe hash.. its going to be the same as the FX1.


sorry for being foamy mouthed.. i just hate shady advertizing. alot of spend thrift consumers or video newbs will be misled and uniformed into their purchasing decision from stuff such as that.

[Policar]

A similar difference in price between the vx2100 and pd170. Nice work, Sony. With the rumors of $6,000 dollars I was starting to think bad things, but that's perfectly reasonable, though I'm sure most of that difference is pure profit.

Still, I want REAL 24p, but I bet even this fake 24p looks pretty sweet since it's hi-def.

[ccroo]

Will the quality of SD/DV from the FX1 be better than the quality of the DVX progressive with the 16:9 adapter?

Also, it seems the FX1 will do 480p... but that may only be when downconverting from HDV in the camera internally. Anyone know?

[monster]

ok so it has real 30p but not not real 24p ?

[David Jimerson]

It does not have progressive-scan chips. Any "progressive" mode it might have will be an internal deinterlacing.

So no, no "real" 30p.