GH2 official discussion thread

[Rolf Silber]

The images during panning shots don´t look good - its a kind of flickering. I don´t know what it is. With the canons i´ve never seen this behavior with 24p...

If Panasonic really officially allows people to shoot and distribute such incredibly crappy stuff with a "pre-production" GH2 (Whatever this means) then they would be out of their minds. This looks like someone made rather fast panning with much too long a lens and too short a shutter speed.

I guess this was in reality shot by the Secret Society of Sony-Sisters or the Clandestine Cult of the Canonistas to undermine the new product. Yep - conspiracies wherever we look..... ;-)

[Uwe Lansing]

...This looks like someone made rather fast panning with much too long a lens and too short a shutter speed.
....

He has shot these scenes with a shutter of 1/50 - that´s ok. But right, the pannings are a bit too fast and perhaps the focal length was too long... I just took a closer look at slower pannings - they seem to be ok. But we have to keep an eye on that...

[mpgxsvcd]

can anyone comment on that please?

I don't see any indication of interlacing in that footage. Are we sure it is 1080i and not 1080p? I don't see any flickering at all.

[Uwe Lansing]

.... Are we sure it is 1080i and not 1080p? I don't see any flickering at all.

Its 1080p24. Did you watch the downloaded file? Its pretty obvious on the guys white t-shirt at 00:09-00:11. I don´t know how to call it..."flickering" or a kind of "bad interlacing appearances"... As I said before, I´ve never seen it with a canon...

[Matthew P]

The images during panning shots don´t look good - its a kind of flickering. I don´t know what it is. With the canons i´ve never seen this behavior with 24p...

It's quite peculiar. I noticed it on the other 24p footage that's available, and I thought it might have been down to them being 24p, rather than 25p (even though I'm pretty sure that difference isn't visible, lol). If you ask me it resembles film footage though, and it might be because there's less rolling shutter. Actually, now I come to think of it, 24/25p CCD camcorders have this kind of clear judder, too. So maybe it really is down to less rolling shutter.

[Vitaliy Kiselev]

Some seemingly not so good news about taking pictures during video:

In a German forum a guy took this from the Panasonic GH2 features website, which is now offline and not available any more.
There was written, that there are 2 possibilities:

I think that this had been widely known for long.
He is correct.
You can't shoot still and have smooth video run in same time.

[roei z]

btw,
i can't watch the mp4 file on my pc: quicktime, vlc, and free mp4 player won't play...
what do you use?
thanks

[svecher]

The images during panning shots don´t look good - its a kind of flickering. I don´t know what it is. With the canons i´ve never seen this behavior with 24p...

Footage from any camera, panned this quickly, will have some degree of "flickering". Additionally, this footage looks like it was shot at fairly high shutter speed. I see in the comments author talking about 1/50 sec shutter. But there is no motion blur between frames whatsoever.

Edit: there seems to be discussion of two recently posted clips. Above comments are regarding "Lumix GH2 - 1080/24p Raw Clip Sample"

[Rolf Silber]

Footage from any camera, panned this quickly, will have some degree of "flickering". Additionally, this footage looks like it was shot at fairly high shutter speed. I see in the comments author talking about 1/50 sec shutter. But there is no motion blur between frames whatsoever.

I am not sure that I want to really discuss material where someone takes one lousy shot waving the camera from a window down onto a run-down tourist place and shout's "my pre-production-GH2 did lay a golden egg".

I am very critical of some of Panasonic's probable decisions about the GH2 if it really should come with the specs as recently advertised...... but really, somebody give us a break, please: This comes down as having the same predictive qualities as reading the innards of a dead fish.

[kainekainekaine]

Tried a few players only one that worked was K-lite codec pack

btw,
i can't watch the mp4 file on my pc: quicktime, vlc, and free mp4 player won't play...
what do you use?
thanks