Premiere CS5 exporting- quality issues!

[Admir]

Hi!

After a lot of time with trying to bend and adjust the exporting settings in my CS4 I gave up because a lot of people said that CS5 was sooo much better when it came to the quality of an exported file.

My issues with CS4 was mainly that the picture looked so darn pale when exported, and the nice and rich colors became so washed out.
Today, I tried out the CS5, and I get the same results.

Now, I know for sure that it is not the programs fault, I'm doing a mistake here somewhere somehow. I know that you have to know one zillion things about exporting in order to get a good picture. But should it really be that hard to export something that at least looks somewhat like the previewscreen on premiere while editing?

Here's a screengrab. To the left is the exported clip in h264 hdtv720p PAL 25fps, and to the right is the monitor on premiere. Hmc151 with sgblade. As you see, the picture is (imo) nice rich when it comes to the colors. The left one... well, not quite the same.. http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/7871/prmrexport.png

So please, if anyone knows, where should i start to troubleshoot, what is going on?

[Demistate]

Few things to think about

1) The source does probablly match Premiere Pro, it's just being interpreted wrong by VLC

2) Never Use Quicktime to export any files unless you absolutly have to. Its a source of gamma shift

3) Never Use Quicktime player to validate your files unless you absoultly have to. Its a source of gamma shift

4) Chances are if you just find the 0-255 16-235 output range selector in VLC it will look correct.

Take a look at this thread for your VLC issues:

http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=77848

Windows 7 Windows media player will interpret the colors correctly. So will hardware based players like the PS3, and XBOX360.

It's also possible that your NVIDIA driver or ATI driver is manipulating the colors in your overlay before they get presented on the screen. Make sure you have those settings at neutral, or "Let the player determine colors"

[Ann Bens]

Its the player. If you played the clip in WMP it will give a darker color.

[Admir]

Thanks for the answers guys!

I will experiment with other players. Wmp looks a bit better, but still when a totaly black picture is shown, it's not deep black, but more like a washed out black..

What would you say is the best exportingoption in cs5? The h264?

[Admir]

It looks like I yet have another problem with the exporting with CS5. Now this one is a bit more strange...


I've finished a short edit, and exported it in h264 HDTV 720p 25 fps.

Uploaded it to both youtube and vimeo, but it won't play in HD, only 480 and 360..

First i thaught it was youtube, but vimeo is the same. Mpeg2 works fine with HD.

So whats up now with the H264? CS4 worked fine, but CS5 makes it to SD format or something?!

[Ann Bens]

Try the YouTube widescreen HD setting and change the framerate to 25.

[Demistate]

It looks like I yet have another problem with the exporting with CS5. Now this one is a bit more strange...


I've finished a short edit, and exported it in h264 HDTV 720p 25 fps.

Uploaded it to both youtube and vimeo, but it won't play in HD, only 480 and 360..

First i thaught it was youtube, but vimeo is the same. Mpeg2 works fine with HD.

So whats up now with the H264? CS4 worked fine, but CS5 makes it to SD format or something?!

Take a look at this thread:

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=154352

None of the presets in Adobe Media Encoder are any good. You'll get pretty crappy results with almost all of them.

[maarek]

If you use a nvidia card they have a setting in the control panel which allows you to switch to 0-255 from 16-235 and suddenly the blacks will be ok in WMP and other players...except vlc though.

[crirus]

If you use a nvidia card they have a setting in the control panel which allows you to switch to 0-255 from 16-235 and suddenly the blacks will be ok in WMP and other players...except vlc though.

Live savier... I managed to set up video color settings alone in NVIDIA to get full dynamic range as well as few other tweaks and the video play back crystal clear now... even in VLC;)

[crirus]

Live savier... I managed to set up video color settings alone in NVIDIA to get full dynamic range as well as few other tweaks and the video play back crystal clear now... even in VLC;)

I have a question though... what happens to users that want to see my video and have no idea about nvidia thing? Is there a way to export to cover that issue? Is this setting of reduced range a default or something I did myself and forget...? Thanks