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    Stable MJPEG and AVCHD settings
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    Only expirienced testers are allowed to post here.
    All good settings will be accumulated to first post, and deleted later.

    1) PappasArts settings (see his thread for more details)

    Settings for achieving 1440X1080-30P Finale V.1 [ CLASS 10 HIGH QUALITY CARD NEEDED ]
    MJPEG 1280p width - input 1440
    MJPEG 1280p height - input 1080
    MJPEG Encoder 1280m-1920m - checked
    QUALITY SETTINGS [ 384, 330, 300, 276 ] TABLE SETTINGS [ 24, 24, 24, 24 ]

    HOW TO SHOOT 720P/30 IN 80Mbits MODE

    QUALITY SETTINGS [ 384, 330, 300, 276 ]
    TABLE SETTINGS [ 24, 24, 24, 24 ]
    This mode give you a glorious 720P at a very high bit rate.

    2) Paul Shields Settings, 1280x720

    I did also find settings that were giving me over 70Mbit/sec without issues.
    E1 256, E1 table 8, E2 256, E2 table 8, E3 256, E3 table 8, E4 256, E4 table 8.
    If you set the table values to 5,5,5,5 then as well as recording ok it also plays back nicely in camera. The footage I've shot shows bitrate around 34Mbit/sec.


    P.S. Note lens used can affect maximum usable bitrate because camera perform geometric, CA and vingetting correction for many Panasonic lenses.
    Best is to use manual lenses for tests.
    Last edited by Barry_Green; 06-15-2010 at 10:59 AM.


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    AVCHD STABLE SETTINGS FOR 1080P

    C Settings:

    -Video bitrate adjustment - c)50000000
    -Overall bitrate adjustment - c)52000000
    -Limiting bitrate adjustment - c)60000000

    AVCHD STABLE SETTINGS
    FOR 720P

    Quote Originally Posted by jobless
    If you shoot in 720 60p mode, D settings probably won’t work with high detailed scenes and camera will interrupt recording after few seconds. For 720 MODE use the following settings that will work without problems:

    Video bitrate adjustment - 38000000
    Overall bitrate adjustment - 40000000
    Limiting bitrate adjustment - 42000000

    For these settings avg. bitrate in 1080 MODE is 34.4 Mbps and for 720 34.5 Mbps.
    There are no problems with recording of any kind either with 1080 or 720.
    No MUD with this setting also.
    I should say that these are stable settings and I would recommend them for normal users that want to shoot with 1080 and 720.
    Jobless's thread on AVCHD Settings: http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread...34#post2012634

    OTHER AVCHD SETTINGS TESTED (YOUR MILEAGE MAY VARY)

    -Video bitrate adjustment - 60000000
    -Overall bitrate adjustment - 56000000
    -Limiting bitrate adjustment - 60000000

    Originally posted here: http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.p...&postcount=266
    ***WARNING***
    Your results might be different and these settings might yield card errors.
    The two cards yielding the fewest card errors seem to be the
    Sandisk Class 10 and Panasonic Gold Class 10 cards.

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    The best, and most stable, AVCHD settings I have found so far are 50,52,60 (the "c" suggestions) with Native 24p not checked. I am using Transcend 16GB class 10 cards. With the Sandisk Ultra MCXXLV Sooper Dooper Card you probably could get away with the 60,62,70 settings.

    The Transcend class 6 cards fail occassionally with a write error with the 50,52,60 settings. The 60,62,70 settings fail occassionaly with the Transcend class 10 cards.

    Native 24p checked produces rogue frames (spikes) with all settings, even factory default settings.

    Fast shutter speeds (e.g. 1/500) increase I frame size considerably, but not the overall data rate, so I assume the IQ suffers somewhat. High sharpening (which is a complete waste because it can be better done in post) and low noise reduction (setting the NR a little higher might actually be a good thing) settings do too, although not as much. OIS and autofocus appear to degrade the camera's ability to write to memory somewhat - probably because they stress the CPU.

    So for me optimum settings are 50,52,60 - Native 24p not checked. These settings work no matter the subject, or how much I zoom the lens in and out, when OIS is on, autofocus is on, auto exposure is on, shutter speeds are high (1/500), NR -2, and Sharpening +2. That's as close to a worse case scenario as I can come up with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbrandin View Post
    The best, and most stable, AVCHD settings I have found so far are 50,52,60 (the "c" suggestions) with Native 24p not checked. I am using Transcend 16GB class 10 cards. With the Sandisk Ultra MCXXLV Sooper Dooper Card you probably could get away with the 60,62,70 settings.

    The Transcend class 6 cards fail occassionally with a write error with the 50,52,60 settings. The 60,62,70 settings fail occassionaly with the Transcend class 10 cards.

    Native 24p checked produces pulses with all settings, even factory default settings.

    Fast shutter speeds (e.g. 1/500) increase I frame size considerably, but not the overall data rate, so I assume the IQ suffers somewhat. High sharpening (which is a complete waste because it can be better done in post) and low noise reduction (setting the NR a little higher might actually be a good thing) settings do too, although not as much. OIS and autofocus appear to degrade the camera's ability to write to memory somewhat - probably because they stress the CPU.

    So for me optimum settings are 50,52,60 - Native 24p not checked. These settings work no matter the subject, or how much I zoom the lens in and out, when OIS is on, autofocus is on, auto exposure is on, shutter speeds are high (1/500), NR -2, and Sharpening +2. That's as close to a worse case scenario as I can come up with.

    Chris

    I can film normal real world stuff with 60,62,70- however the star chart causes the write error. 50-52-60 are good. In another thread moments ago it was posted that they did 50-52-60 settings with a GOP4 and preliminary results showed a jump in Mbs. I havn't tried it out yet.

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    I've cleaned up this thread, please post your results testing other settings and if enough people find them stable I'll add them to the second post. Hopefully this clears up some confusion.
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    By the way, I did not change GOP settings - I left the 1080 GOP at 15, which corresponds to the standard 1/2 seconds between I frames when using the wrapped (Native 24p not checked) mode. I haven't noticed that changing the GOP makes much difference in quality one way or another.

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    Transcend 6 16GB stable settings
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    Here are the following stable AVCHD settings I have found for my Transcend Class 6 16GB card. I am testing with the 14mm-140mm lens kit.

    (The first column denotes max Mbps, as shown on Windows, found on one of my clips)
    26mbps -> 28,30,34 Native 24p/25 ON
    29mbps -> 30,32,36 Native 24p/25 ON
    31mbps -> 32,34,40 Native 24p/25 OFF
    33mbps -> 38,40,42 Native 24p/25 OFF (720P fails while zooming with AutoFocus but zooming is OK with Manual Focus, 1080P solid so far)
    35mbps -> 40,46,50 Native 24p/25 OFF (720P fails while zooming/panning with AutoFocus and Manual Focus, 1080P solid so far)

    My film mode settings are: Smooth settings, -2 Contrast, -1 Sharp, -2 Noise Reduction, OIS always on. I have informally tested these settings by performing my daffodils of death test and, more importantly, using my camera on field trips.

    I'm going to try and squeeze some more mbps out of my card; will report back soon! And, last but not least, thank you Vitaliy and other testers!
    Last edited by 3Tigers; 06-26-2010 at 02:25 PM. Reason: update with 40,46,50


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    Anyone have New, Stable 720p 30 MJPEG settings
    the kind that are beautiful like "PappasArts settings", and "Paul Shields Settings"
    that can run all day long on a Scandisk Extreme class 10.
    On Pauls I got about 3Gigs in and had Write failure and on PappasArts I went alittle longer
    but fail as well. Just as a note I also notice when I change from my 75mm to 22mm
    I also get write error wt Avchd (C) settings. In same light, same scene, same Stops (I'm guessing 22mm
    wider picture more info)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sizzlepost View Post
    Anyone have New, Stable 720p 30 MJPEG settings
    Please try these "2xQ/T5" settings with a Class 10 card and let me know how it works.

    Q: 256, 220, 200, 184
    T: 5, 5, 5, 5

    I have 4:2:2 checked and get around 70 mbps.
    Camera records fine. AFC, live histogram, 1/125 or 1/30 shutter speed are no problem.
    (I use the 20 mm pancake lens)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sizzlepost View Post
    Anyone have New, Stable 720p 30 MJPEG settings
    the kind that are beautiful like "PappasArts settings", and "Paul Shields Settings"
    that can run all day long on a Scandisk Extreme class 10.
    On Pauls I got about 3Gigs in and had Write failure and on PappasArts I went alittle longer
    but fail as well. Just as a note I also notice when I change from my 75mm to 22mm
    I also get write error wt Avchd (C) settings. In same light, same scene, same Stops (I'm guessing 22mm
    wider picture more info)
    What card are you using? If you want to go with the higher bitrates like the 70Mbps + range you'll need either the 32gig Scandisk Extreme Class 10 card or the Panasonic 32gig Gold Class 10 card. I myself have the Patriot 32gig Class 10 card and it seems to fail around 53-54Mbps. I spent a good chunk of the day today trying to find stable setting around that range. I'm very close with the AVCHD modes, but not so much with the MJPEG mode.

    You can see my progress along with others here.
    https://spreadsheets.google.com/lv?key=0AhUcRFsldRWndENGeHd1QUlra3c5SDhVZ0JuTTAtM3 c&f=0


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