Avengers

[David Jimerson]

Apparently Avengers has already grabbed the #4 all-time top-grossing spot. I'd say the big gamble paid off.

[tmnt]

What big gamble?

[David Jimerson]

The gamble of making Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, and Captain America, with the intent of bringing them all together in The Avengers. Along with using them to introduce the characters who didn't rate their own movies.

[refocusedmedia]

Wally Pfister says this film is "appalling".

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplayli...-film-20121017

[Batutta]

Wally Pfister says this film is "appalling".

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplayli...-film-20121017

Well then that settles it.

[David Jimerson]

He's got a bit of a point. It's not the most well-directed movie. A friend of mine called it "brilliant," but it's not. It's a rip-roaring fun time, which excels at everything it set out to do, but it's not a great example of cinema. Of course, it doesn't need to be.

[Batutta]

Yeah, but, appalling?....I was never taken out of the film by any of the shots. He's a craftsman with a very specific preference for the type of camera work he likes to see, and that's all well and good. But I don't see it as an artistic failure. He wouldn't have shot it that way. That doesn't mean the way it's shot doesn't work. It certainly worked for the majority of moviegoers...If I'm being honest, Pfister has done great, amazing work, but sometimes he can be boring.

[David Jimerson]

I don't agree with "appalling."

[j1clark@ucsd.edu]

Yeah, but, appalling?....I was never taken out of the film by any of the shots. He's a craftsman with a very specific preference for the type of camera work he likes to see, and that's all well and good. But I don't see it as an artistic failure. He wouldn't have shot it that way. That doesn't mean the way it's shot doesn't work. It certainly worked for the majority of moviegoers...If I'm being honest, Pfister has done great, amazing work, but sometimes he can be boring.

There's only one film in recent times that I would call the camera work 'appalling'... and that would be "Beasts of the Southern Wild"(2012). I don't walk out of films ever... and I didn't in this case... but I was so 'car sick' by the end of the first act... I pretty much closed my eyes for the rest of the film... the Wife had wanted to see this film for so long, it was 'politically' not an option to leave...

Anyway, the only other film I have had that sort of reaction to was "Grand Prix"(1966)...

But other than those two... camera work is almost never a reason why I would call a film 'appalling'... for Hollywood productions.

No, I don't like 'shaky cam', no I don't like 'focus hunt'... and a number of other current camera techniques, but 'appalling'... no.

In the case of 'Avengers'(2012), I thought the film was pretty good in the entertainment sense. However, I think Robert Downy Jr. is getting a bit too inclined to play the same sort of character (Asperger's like genius...). This happened to Jack Nicholson, and a number of other 'top celebs', and I think it is unfortunate...

[bwwd]

that film would of been 50% worse without loki vs hulk fight, theres not much to remember from the movie but that scene was really the best thing in it.