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Thread: Panasonic AG-AF100 announced
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07-08-2010 01:09 PM
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Video interview with Jan Crittenden on the Panasonic AG-AF100.
07-08-2010 10:08 PM
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2. How wil this camera deal with skew, wobble, and partial exposure issues from CMOS Rolling Shutter?
3. What about image stabilization? will it be only at the lenses?
4. How about the Color sampling? Will it be 4:2:2? Even the fixed lens Canon XF305 has it... I mean, less than this ishat we expect from HDV... Not from a HD camera with a 4/3" sensor.
Panasonic P2 cameras
Canon XF cameras
That's it. Not any of the XDCAM-EX line, not any of the XDCAM-HD lineup, not the Red, not anybody. And the Canon is brand new to this; for the longest time it was a Panasonic-only thing to offer affordable HD 4:2:2.
5. Last but not least: I think using data bitrate of 24mbps is not satisfactory on a camera of this prize released in late 2010.
We definitely need a codec that delievers at least 50 mbps, like the Canon XF codec...
Why go for AVCCAM, when Panasonic can use codecs like DVCPro or AVCintra, which could easily provide such data rates?
Don't forget that Canon Global Expo happens every five years and it will take place September this year. They are almost sure to announce their new interchangeable lenses model to replace the Canon XL-H1, which although still being vaporware, will most certainly have the XF codec at least and bigger sensor, etc... For around $9K. Without the above mentioned specs, I don't see how Panasonic will seriously compete in this market share.
Last edited by Barry_Green; 07-08-2010 at 10:40 PM.
07-19-2010 04:18 PM
Thanks a lot for the detailed reply, Barry!
07-19-2010 04:38 PM
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And now that Canon (who usually arrives late at the race) delivered these specks on a fixed lens $7k camera, I expected Panasonic not to deliver any less than that.
But you can't ask them to give in one area, and not take from the other. Canon has 50mbps 4:2:2 on a 1/3" chip. Panasonic is producing the AF100 with an image sensor that is SIXTEEN TIMES larger. And interchangeable lenses. For less.
Am I that wrong to assume that 50Mbps is better than 24Mbps?.
Numbers don't mean anything unless you're comparing the exact same type to the exact same type. The Canon DSLRs use 50mbps of h.264, and the Panasonic HMC40 uses 21 megabits of h.264. Yet the HMC40's codec beats the pants off the Canon's.
You can only compare like to like. Comparing bitrates, without accounting for everything else, is pretty meaningless. For example, in Sony's own brochure they say that 9 megabits of AVCHD is equivalent to 25 megabits of HDV.
I have tested 21mbps AVCCAM AVCHD against 35mbps of MPEG-2 XDCAM-EX and found that the 21mbps AVCHD performs every bit as good in normal circumstances, and substantially better in extreme circumstances, than the 35mbps of MPEG-2.
Yes, I read that article when it first came out but, considerably more recently, Chris Hurd himself stated quite the opposite. Maybe he got different info from his sources, or changed his mind.
His "nooooooooooooooooo" was in relation to the idea of Canon producing a large-sensor interchangeable-lens video camera, which has pretty much nothing to do with the XF series.
Last edited by Barry_Green; 07-19-2010 at 10:24 PM.
07-19-2010 05:30 PM
Ok Barry, thanks for the enlightening explanations!
The AG-AF100 is expected to have protoypes in August. The Canon Global Expo is in September. The Photokina is in September...
Something tells me I'll hold my choices till October. I'll have to purchase 2 or 3 new cameras. I used to work with Canon XL-H1. I'm aiming at two AG-AF100 in December and probably one XF305 in October. Guess I'll wait at least for the Canon Global before going for the XF305...
I will also need a pair of nanoflash.
07-19-2010 08:06 PM
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damn can't wait for af100 it's going to be epic. go panny!
08-24-2010 07:39 PM
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It's ready for your wishlist...expected in December...
"I am looking for a cinematic approach that will display more angles and creative sweeping movements more like a music video.
I also want a video that will have a soundtrack that will set the theme of my wedding production and the end result is more dramatic.
Can you offer me this in your video, if so then I will book too! Also can you work with budgets?"