^ hey... it was 3am in the morning when I watched it...just going by my notes... cut me some slack.
(maybe a score would have been nice...? No more comments until I get some sleep!)
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03-07-2010 02:12 PM
I like AJ's choice to not have a score in this film. I think it is in keeping with his vision to not go the tradition route, and I enjoyed the sound design so much that I never felt like I was missing a score. The pacing, acting, and sound design all combined for a nice delivery. At the end, I felt like "hey, there was no score, and I didn't miss it."
Cheers,
Ryan E. Walters
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03-07-2010 02:24 PM
Yep- WE are not normal at all. ;)
It is good to know, and I appreciate the feedback / criticism. It is important to know if a viewer is taken out of the moment, as that is not what I want to happen. But it is a risk whenever the norms or conventions are strayed from. And I am still glad that we made bolder choices and took more risks on this one. It is good to know that it did not take you out of it for very long and it wasn't overly distracting.
I think it works, but obviously I am bias. The films / cinematographers that inspire me most have always been ones that stray from the norm / convention. So I just need to be aware to not let it become to over powering that the images overtake the story- in the end, the images should be subservient to the story.
Cheers,
Ryan E. Walters
Cinematographer
www.ryanewalters.com - Tutorials - IMDB - Twitter - REEL
Specializing in Digital Cinematography
"Too often people get caught up in the technical end of things ... They are missing the point completely. This way there is no proper input of individual personality." Vittorio Storaro, ASC, AIC.
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03-07-2010 05:07 PM
Yes, I had planned a younger actor to play Crosse (suit) when I wrote the script. And I debated cutting the "kid" lines but once I saw it in rehearsal I wasn't bothered by it. Phillips saying "kid" is more of a reflection of who he is and how he sees people, rather than a accuracy denoting age. But yes, I do see how it can be distracting.
Originally Posted by Michael Anthony Horrigan
Yes, I did like the effect of the dust rising after he coughed, and I DID say that on the second take, but in my defense, I used the first take in the edit, the take where he did it naturally before I had said anything about the cough.
Originally Posted by Michael Anthony Horrigan

Gohanto, maybe take that as a compliment. The sound design was so effective that he felt as if there was a score.
Originally Posted by Gohanto
hah
I knew early on that I was not going to use score/music. In fact the sound designer Gohanto (Alex), was technically the first person onboard. I had him involved early in pre-prod, and made sure we had sound in mind for the shoot. Alex is very talented and was dedicated to doing what was right for the film. Kudos to him for his work.
Originally Posted by Ryan E. Walters
To respond to the questions about the story and "what the hell was going on?"...
Like Ryan said, it is a balance. I usually get comments on my films saying I do not give enough information or that certain elements were unclear. Personally I feel I gave enough in this film for people to figure out everything I wanted them to in terms of story.
I might elaborate on the story in a future post, but I almost think I should leave things as they are.
Thanks everyone for the comments. I love the feedback!
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03-07-2010 06:36 PM
Thanks AJ and Zaza, sincerely, and I do take it as a great compliment (hence the smiley face after the comment
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I was a wonderful challenge to get a film that worked sonically without a score and thanks for bringing me on board early. And I certainly owe a lot to your production mixer / boom op who captured excellent stuff on set.Last edited by Gohanto; 03-07-2010 at 06:40 PM.
I invented the "remove echo" audio filter. And only people that boom their actors closely get to use it.
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03-07-2010 10:03 PM
Ryan E. Walters, i loved the lighting and cinematography. loved. To me, you knocked it out of the park. I would work with you in a nano-second.
Matt Harris
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03-07-2010 10:51 PM
Good film! I really liked the cinematography, although have the same thoughts on the color of light. I think it looked a little washed out as well, which could be adjusted easily with some color correction. Sound was good. Acting was great. Good job!
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03-08-2010 02:28 AM
Good film, I liked it the pacing was very good, I didn't get the story although I think its good to leave the audience wanting more information of let them "fill in the blanks". Overall well done.
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03-08-2010 07:36 AM
definitely one of the best looking films of the fest for sure, although I guess it being shot on red obviously helped. the cinematography was very good, as well as the editing and sound. overall it came off as very pro. as far as the story, I'm guessing it was a reservoir dogs like scenario where most of the accomplices had never met? and he recognized his daughter's killer from his neck scar/tattoo. the only problem I had was why were the guy's hands tied in front of him? wouldn't it have been easy for him to pull out his gun and wait for whoever tied them up to come through the door and then just shoot them? still one of my top films of the fest though. good job.









