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    ZaZa - ha ha! I actually wrote a uh, 'porn' scene for a dvxuser a year or two ago and told them
    to NOT put me in the credits. Did it as a favor, so I think I'll stick to "lace" for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charli View Post
    ZaZa - ha ha! I actually wrote a uh, 'porn' scene for a dvxuser a year or two ago and told them
    to NOT put me in the credits. Did it as a favor, so I think I'll stick to "lace" for now.
    COOL!




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    This is a pretty good read, and it flows well, but the whole thing just doesn't come together for me. I really think it's because you're trying to cover far too much territory here. This seems like basically a character story (possibly even a light comedy) about these two people who, by the by, happen to be detectives. It's an interesting relationship, almost brother-sister. They have in-jokes, they cover for each other – maybe there's some jealousy or romantic tension there.

    And then you have the last page. It completely comes out of nowhere – no, not nowhere, but a completely different movie than the one we've been following so far. All of a sudden this is a brutal gritty crime drama. It's a tremendous change-up and in such a short format I think it simply doesn't work. Whatever likability any of the characters had is gone. I sure as hell don't relate to Ortega after this – because I don't see any motivation or rationale behind what she's done.

    I think you should strongly consider losing the big twist and just focusing on your strong character story.

    I also agree that there's absolutely no need to show Davis' affair – with no room to spare in the script it feels rushed and takes away from some other scene that would have been more valuable, I'm sure.

    In the category of minor nitpicks, I'm not a big fan of the FEMALE/MALE character "reveal" at the beginning. The secret doesn't last long and there doesn't seem to be much point to it, other than creating confusion. But that's just my personal preference in writing.

    You also tell us that Jenny is Davis' wife in the action, which is cheating. It's easy enough to get that information across through a quick line of dialogue or a visual (or just leave it out and assume we can figure it out) but that's the sort of thing you shouldn't write, really.

    One last nitpick: towards the end when they're moving down the hallway you've got this whole series of lines, each ending in "backup."

    "Did you bring your backup?"
    "Let's call for backup"
    "Got your backup?"

    Pretty confusing if you ask me. I get it, but there's got to be a better way to put that.

    Anyway, good read. I don't know if you intend to continue working on it or if it's just done as it is, but I hope something I said is helpful.

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    Doug - no, it's all helpful. I tossed it back and forth whether or not to use their names in the beginning,
    but because I started ON BLACK I decided to go that way with the 'female's voice.'

    It's suppose to be a brutal betrayal, so it should come out of nowhere, but with a few subtle hints
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    i found this one sort of awkwardly written to the point that it was hard for me to get into. lines like this:

    Far in front of her a MALE whose legs spin as fast as humanly
    possible and barely in front of him a MALE SUSPECT in black
    t-shirt and jeans.

    just don't seem to flow very well for me. also the sporadic naming of characters that was mentioned before bugged me.

    i thought some of the dialogue was a bit too on the nose. lines like "you need to embrace your marriage more" don't come off naturally to me and just seem like awkward exposition.

    other than these things i thought the story itself was fine. like others have mentioned thought the final twist was a little tacked on and arbitrary but it's difficult to create a meaningful betrayal in six minutes.


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    Thanks for the feedback REH.
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    Charli,

    A good read. I had similar issues that others have had but nothing too distracting. Some of your dialogue was really on the nose, but i still had trouble following the whole story on my first read. I enjoyed how you brought it back to the beginning at the end.

    It reminded me a bit of an exchange between Batista and LaGuardia from Dexter.

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    Thanks, Ben. I really enjoy writing "bookends" on my scenes, even for scripts. It's a nice way
    to tie the whole sequence of events nicely. Thanks for the read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charli View Post
    Doug - no, it's all helpful. I tossed it back and forth whether or not to use their names in the beginning,
    but because I started ON BLACK I decided to go that way with the 'female's voice.'

    It's suppose to be a brutal betrayal, so it should come out of nowhere, but with a few subtle hints
    here and there.

    I can't agree with this, sorry. For a betrayal to be brutal, it has to be motivated. There has to be internal character drama to it.

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    I like dialogue at the beginning, but think you could do just as well starting at the stake-out. Maybe use those extra pages to motivate the ending more.

    Would be easier to produce to if that's what you have in mind, too; three locations: car, garage, warehouse. I guess four if you do the bedroom scene.

    I think it can all read darkly if it started that way too--the garage scene could really establish the mood if it weren't shot humorously. The ending wouldn't be such a disorienting shock then either.

    One more thought: I think the scene at the beginning would be a GREAT start to a feature. That's the kind of scene it feels like. But with shorts I agree with REHov520, and you should make a good twist ending more of a priority than an exciting beginning.

    Lots of good dialogue and an interesting concept though.

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