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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaine View Post
    I can't imagine that would be a problem in this community. Everyone's here to get better at their craft, INCLUDING the Mods.
    Of course, but a 'vacationing' Mod winning the Fest and taking home expensive prizes will always look bad. Sorry, it just will. You also have to remember how this will look as this festival gets larger and receives more attention. Big festivals probably don't allow people working for the festival to take home top prizes, not monetary ones anyway.

    In the end, do I really care? Not really.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Ramsey View Post
    which is the way it is now structured and mods would be eligible to take that hiatus beginning with the fest after this one. Any mod made film in betrayal fest would be exhibition only.

    Unless there is enough of an objection to allowing a moderator hiatus status exception
    If you want people to honestly respond to this query then run a poll and allow the members to vote anonymously.

    Either way, I'm glad that you guys run these festivals and I plan on entering yet again.
    With or without prizes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Ramsey View Post
    I think that's the only way to get a real feel for what the forum wants.
    My bet is that the majority allows it.

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    what would be an "acceptable majority"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Ramsey View Post
    what would be an "acceptable majority"?

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    That's your call.

    Again, I think the forum will allow it. Probably not an issue. It's good to get an idea of how everyone feels though.

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    well... if it's 55%, that doesn't seem very encouraging. if it's 80? or 90?

    Should we run a poll on that too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Ramsey View Post
    well... if it's 55%, that doesn't seem very encouraging. if it's 80? or 90?

    Should we run a poll on that too?

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    LOL! In the end you guys run the show. This will just give you an idea as to how much the boat will be rocking.


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    So as I have said for the last year now. I am super excited about this festival and I am going to enter it....for real this time haha. I am however going to wait until after exams to start a film thread...just to be safe.


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    There appears to be a contradiction in the Rules, or in any event could I get a clarification

    "EXCEPTION: You MAY post screen grabs from your footage. You MAY also post stills or video of BEHIND THE SCENES b-roll and interviews of your cast and crew in the form of a documentary, podcast, etc. However, NO fictional elements that encompass or extend the narrative of your film are permitted – this includes a restriction on behind the scenes footage of actual takes. "

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    "CONCERNING TRAILERS/TEASERS
    If you wish to make a teaser/trailer for your film, you may BUT... It may NOT contain any live action footage of any kind WHATSOEVER. Whether from your film or not. Absolutely NO live action footage. So, think of it more as a teaser than a trailer."

    How is posting video of BTS or cast interviews not unlike a trailer, and if I can post a cast interview, why couldn't I put that in a trailer?
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    As you know, a conventional trailer is constructed exclusively from footage shot for the motion picture it is advertising. Our trailer rule says that no live action motion footage can be used in any trailer for your short during this fest (basically, you CAN'T make a genuine trailer as we know them). "of any kind" means no footage shot for your short whether its used in the final cut or not, or even if it's something shot specifically for a trailer using elements such as characters, props or expanded story elements from your short. No live action footage in any trailer/teaser marketing piece is allowed. Of the elements that are conventionally found in a trailer, you could use screen shots/frame grabs in place of moving footage, title cards, voice-over and music from your score. that's about as close as you can get.

    Now, the "exception" you highlighted refers to BEHIND THE SCENES and if you choose to do a small documentary about making your film, or to interview your star, or to do "set reports", that's fine as long as that piece abides by the same rules we have about posting in your thread – no footage from your short, no outtakes, and no BTS of an actual take.

    Personally, I think the trailer rule is so limiting as to make cutting one ineffective as a marketing tool. much more value could be culled from connecting with your potential audience by giving them a glimpse into how your mini-epic came to be in a BTS doc.

    But I do see where you're getting tripped up. The trailer rule says no live action footage of any kind whatsoever but the behind the scenes rule makes some allowances for b-roll and interviews. Just consider that if you were planning to use behind the scenes footage in a "trailer" it would cease to be a trailer and become a documentary of its making, regardless of how slickly produced it is.
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