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    Justin, I totally agree on
    "3- Shooting with no script and just forming it as you go"

    Seems like I've ran across several of those. The were expertly shot, but left me wondering
    what the story was about, and after all what we do story telling :-)

    I don't mind not knowing what the ending is or exactly what it means, as long as there is something I can sink my teeth into on the way.


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    Justin, I totally agree on
    "3- Shooting with no script and just forming it as you go"

    Seems like I've ran across several of those. The were expertly shot, but left me wondering
    what the story was about, and after all what we do story telling :-)

    I don't mind not knowing what the ending is or exactly what it means, as long as there is something I can sink my teeth into on the way.
    Yeah I have met a lot of people that do this. They will say something like "Lets go out and shoot something." I say like what? "I don't know, something gore or something." I just smack my forehead and explain that it's not exactly done that way but there are still people that do this. I just can't do that. Sure I can do it if I wanted to just take pretty shots of what my camera can do or you know, capture the ambiance of a location and such but not for a narrative. I know it "can" be done but I'm sure it will most likely end in disaster.


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    Quote Originally Posted by EditPhish View Post
    I think it's pretty difficult to tell a good, interesting and cohesive story in six minutes or less. I know for us we had to do some "test screenings" with people who didn't know what we were working on to see if they understood what our story was. Most got it, but some didn't. That's the challenge when the viewers aren't in our minds knowing what we mean. I can only speak for JTyner and I, but we know we take on these challenges for that exact kind of practice!
    I don't think it's impossible or difficult--the problem with the majority of the films in these fests is that they try to cram feature length ideas into six minutes. You simply have to narrow the scope of an idea.

    In this fest, "Dispatch" is a great example. It clocks in at under 5 minutes and it tells most of the story visually (first rule of screen writing: showing not telling). Even within its narrow scope, its able to touch on so many bigger ideas and it's just a great example of a simple story well told.

    If you haven't seen the Filminute festival, check it out:

    http://www.filminute.com/2009/

    All the films are a minute long and the winner, The Black Hole, tells a great story in only one minute. It can be done--it just takes being able to strip a story or idea down to the very core.

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    I love the challenge of writing a one minute script. Problem is when you get to filming them they usually last 2.

    I saw a nice one last night at a local film fest. It was 'Shoes' about a bad date. It shows a young lady getting ready for a date and she puts on a nice pair of pumps. She greets her date at the door and he complements her on her shoes. The camera pans down and the dude is wearing the same pumps. The End. It was funny for one minute plus credits film.
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    I think it's pretty difficult to tell a good, interesting and cohesive story in six minutes or less. I know for us we had to do some "test screenings" with people who didn't know what we were working on to see if they understood what our story was. Most got it, but some didn't. That's the challenge when the viewers aren't in our minds knowing what we mean. I can only speak for JTyner and I, but we know we take on these challenges for that exact kind of practice!
    I found this amusing! My god even an amoeba could understand the plot to your film Editphish, please remind any of your 'test audience' that didn't to attend Kindergarten. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by lawriejaffa View Post
    I found this amusing! My god even an amoeba could understand the plot to your film Editphish, please remind any of your 'test audience' that didn't to attend Kindergarten. :P
    Wow.


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    Yep its not a criticism incidentally, just your plot is utterly simple beyond belief - and thats all the story required anyway.

    The quality of plots certainly aren't measured by their complexity.
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    Ya it seemed from responses, re: plot, the ones that kept it simple, done with the strongest technical proficiency got more favorable responses than the movies that had too much going on. I think it's natural to have a longer, more complex story in mind, but boiling it down to something short, you've gotta really select those details, leave in the essentials. A complex 6 minute story is tough to tell.


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    I have gone HUH? with some full length films.
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