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    Carlos... I think you are totally right. FCP already is disabled a couple of things on PowerPC and the writing is on the fall. Apple and it's 3rd party vendors are NOT really going to support or develop for PowerPC. It's a dino and I hate that idea too.. but it's on borrowed time.

    I would like to think as some of you do.. and quite frankly having an upgraded FCP would be cool. if only they gave us native P2 and AVCHD editing. That would be enough to make me upgrade... and having a few more RT things.. bingo.


    FCP has such a marketshare that it's not going anywhere. It's solid and more people are converting over to it than jumping ship. If I were AVID, I'd be even more worried about their overpriced machines...


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    Quote Originally Posted by bikefilms View Post
    I think Apple will preview FCS4, but then use Time Machine to take us back to FCS3.

    Today at a major broadcaster I sat down next to a Powermac G4 suite. Digi-Beta tapes piled high. If FCS3 is to be "Intel-only" as some have speculated, I think the broadcasters will be up in arms. Maybe the nail in some broadcasters coffins?

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    lol I agree with the FCS joke, but I think that most broadcasters (from my experience) still use AVID. Not to mention a G4 will need upgraded to do any HD editing.

    Intel-only products are the next logical step. Coding for both platforms takes money and resources that will only balloon the cost of the suite. At some point Apple will not support power pc. It's coming. Either this upgrade or next.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos Corral View Post
    I thought the whole purpose of Intel Macs was to get off the PowerPC processor.
    i don't think so. i think the reason apple switched to intel was purely financial. the jump from g5 to xeon was the weakest performance improvement i have ever seen with apple. i have been in the mac world for a long time. in comparison, my jumps from 603 to 604e, from 604e to g3, from g3 to g4, and from g4 to g5 were all mind blowing and had me giggling like a schoolgirl each and every time. my jump from quad g5 to 8 core xeon was extremely subtle. no giggling......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justyn View Post
    FCP has such a marketshare that it's not going anywhere. It's solid and more people are converting over to it than jumping ship. If I were AVID, I'd be even more worried about their overpriced machines...

    I think these days no video manufacturer, be it software or hardware, can rest on their reputation for more than 2 years max. Because things are developing so fast and new innovations are made everyday.

    Maybe FCS users -and more importantly: new young users- are not looking towards Avid, but for Adobe products instead. CS4 is not a bad product... Also I have to say as an ex-Avid user, the new Avid strategy, pricing and development towards more open media isn't looking all that bad. Compared to what it used to be.
    Of course I'm waiting for FCS3.


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    If I spend that much to upgrade, I want to giggle!

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    Quote Originally Posted by proffit View Post
    Also I have to say as an ex-Avid user, the new Avid strategy, pricing and development towards more open media isn't looking all that bad. Compared to what it used to be.
    Of course I'm waiting for FCS3.
    Did you see this press release from Avid a couple days ago? This is really good for FCP editors who don't want to learn Avid but want the big studio jobs along side the Avid guys. Good for Avid to do this!

    http://www.avid.com/us/pressroom/fcp...ied-unity.aspx


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    Quote Originally Posted by cheezweezl View Post
    i don't think so. i think the reason apple switched to intel was purely financial. the jump from g5 to xeon was the weakest performance improvement i have ever seen with apple. i have been in the mac world for a long time. in comparison, my jumps from 603 to 604e, from 604e to g3, from g3 to g4, and from g4 to g5 were all mind blowing and had me giggling like a schoolgirl each and every time. my jump from quad g5 to 8 core xeon was extremely subtle. no giggling......
    I upgraded from a PC to a Quad-Core MacPro. I had all sorts of giggles
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos Corral View Post
    I upgraded from a PC to a Quad-Core MacPro. I had all sorts of giggles
    well, yeah!!!

    but seriously, back in the day you could add ram and actually see a performance improvement. back then you could manually assign the amount of ram each app got. you could manage your own resources. it wasn't as friendly to beginners but way more solid for pro's. this is all pre-osx. then they started making ipods, and the slick osx interface replaced flexibilty for advanced users.

    i'm not bashing apple. i mean despite all my gripes, it still beats running windows. just that ever since steve jobs took over, the os has slowly been dumbed down and made more friendly for novices. great for product sales but lame for guys who know how a computer works and want the control.

    in a perfect world, apple would develop a "pro" version of osx. skip the crazy animated hoopla, time machine, dashboard, and all the other slick crap that takes up resources and give the power back to the stuff that matters to pro's.

    or maybe i'm just a grumpy a**hole.....

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    cheez, I am all with you. OSX is a dumb OS that tries to make an ipod out of a powermachine. Apple seems to slowly leave all the pro-tools to themselves and concentrates on selling phones and musicplayers (with a much easier profit). Basically they try to do what MS promised.

    If you look at FCS2 and all the flaws it has, it is incredible they still get away with it. I have a quadcore-windows machine that encodes just like a octacore apple.....with freeware.

    they urgently need to get Motion, FCP and Compressor up to date, they need BluRay support, they need real multiprocessor speed......there is a lot of work and I hope June 8th it is done.


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    Quote Originally Posted by alpi69 View Post
    they urgently need to get Motion, FCP and Compressor up to date, they need BluRay support, they need real multiprocessor speed......there is a lot of work and I hope June 8th it is done.
    don't count on it.....

    do count on being disappointed and frustrated.

    at some point, apple may flake out enough to send the pro's elsewhere. linux? i don't care. if the software and performance is there then so am i....
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